Admittedly, I've been trying to pick moves that are sente with little cost besides mild aji-keshiness, for exactly this reason. If I don't have a definitive 'I want to play here' sense, I wanted to at least leave us an out. Not that I have any clue at the moment what Topazg wants... =)

Trust your instincts and find me a cracker

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I guess I'll take the obvious one.

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Guh, this looks so close, but just doesn't seem to work.

It sure was nice of white to play aji-keshi. I infer that the other two suggestions were not up to Topazg's wishes. That is odd when you think about it, because there are at least 3 reasonable approaches in the unfinished corner, several aji-crushing moves on the right to permanently shut down R8, and the approach at E5.
Either Topazg has very high standards, or great faith in the ability of his teammates to notice that he is burning aji and therefore waiting for a better move.
The really amusing possiblity is that they may infer that he sees a way to kill the corner, and will give him more aji-keshi moves in an attempt to cooperate.

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These are the moves I want. In the top left, I just want something emphasizing thickness. I'm also okay with a move where black would have to cut and fight to get out, since we're so strong locally. Basically at the moment, I'm trying to emphasize any move that will increase the size of our top, left, and middle, ideally combined. The marked stone is my first priority (and my suggestion), but 'a' in particular seems to carry some threat below. 'a' could probably be a bit further, though...

I really don't know what to say. I still like top-center, but since it didn't get our esteemed captains approval, I must think of something else. Unfortunately Chew's a, b and c all look kinda small to me. I really don't know what to say. Perhaps capturing the cutting stone?

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I'll suggest that, although it doesn't feel right either.

I still like c16. Settle things locally and get more influence toward the left. The top left feels like the right place to play, and e17 feels like the wrong direction.

Ok, I'm picking Chew's E17, because I think the cut + ladder makes the top really interesting to us, and was one of the reason I was so happy playing it in sente (as Black has to look after the corner) - to me, this whole sequence works towards us developing something really large.

C16, in gote, feels too slow now. We can't afford to give Black too many easy points, and corner points + sente just feels like we're going to end up behind. I think the balance of influence and power is our chance to make a mark on this game.

TJ, we may well want to play that move, but not until the top is ours. If we play it now, Black gets to play a ladder-breaker whilst breaking out of the corner (in sente, or else why did we play to capture it), then gets to pincer on the left and start attacking everything. If we don't make something with our wall now, we may never get the chance.

I quite like a few of Chew's suggestions for developing the framework, but timing is everything. We can almost guarantee Black will take care of the corner here, so depending on the final result it may be easier to decide where we take out next move.

I wanted E16 (I also still slightly preferred D17 to E17)

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I think we should follow-up and live in the corner. I don't know 5-4 joseki well, but the ones I know start with a or , and then or a respectively (they're just transpositions of the same thing).

If we do decide to tenuki, b, c or some move to activate the right side stone are the options that jump out at me. But I don't think we should tenuki (and I'm still not sure how to use that right side stone).

Have to agree with Fwiffo here, and I like this order the best. I'm fairly familiar with 5-4 stuff, so most likely:

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If black does something other than the initial hane, then great.

As best I recall, this is the standard reply by most pros.

I'll vote hane, who wants to vote extend? Basically only two moves here.

I can do that.

I'll suggest the wedge. It looks like overplay, but over play that ALMOST kinda works. And anyways, it's better than A1, which was the other move I was going to suggest. =)

Tenuki is not an option. We have the ladder, we hane.

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The joseki I know proceeds like this. We push with to allow us to counterhane with . Consider this a trigger.

Both Fwiffo and Jedo suggested the same sequence. Majority rules I guess?