I hate it when they play so rude and march in my place. I know it is wrong, I simply know it from the bottom of my heart that what these people play is incorrect and I never seem to be able to punish it.

Now I think I should have connected at r5 but then again I get split in two... but then white would jump around n5 and then what??
It seems that the only way to win in go is to play territorial games, since invading and living in opponent moyo is so easy, while trying to defend your moyo is extremely hard.

W's moves appear to be working so, incorrect or not, they are appropriate against someone who cannot take advantage of them. Instead of complaining try to figure out why you lost and make sure you don't do it again. A good place to start would be a book on shape.

I hate it when they play so rude and march in my place. I know it is wrong, I simply know it from the bottom of my heart that what these people play is incorrect and I never seem to be able to punish it.

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It seems that the only way to win in go is to play territorial games, since invading and living in opponent moyo is so easy, while trying to defend your moyo is extremely hard.

I am simply over with trying to play like this... I got my self the territorial style book and now I will stick to it. Shapes don't matter when you have solid stones and and territory that can't be invaded. Now I understand what a lot of people mean when they say pro players avoid playing on moyo and focus on territory, it is so much easier

I am simply over with trying to play like this... I got my self the territorial style book and now I will stick to it. Shapes don't matter when you have solid stones and and territory that can't be invaded. Now I understand what a lot of people mean when they say pro players avoid playing on moyo and focus on territory, it is so much easier

The territory advantage comes from the inevitable fighting later: when you have nothing that your opponent can attack, you have a free hand to play in the middle game and endgame.

Actually, that kind of advantage depends upon thickness
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Perhaps I am using the terms incorrectly, but I often think of them as somewhat synonymous. Of course, it occurs to me that solid can be slow and heavy instead of thick, so there's definitely some difference.

How would you describe the difference?

Perhaps I am using the terms incorrectly, but I often think of them as somewhat synonymous. Of course, it occurs to me that solid can be slow and heavy instead of thick, so there's definitely some difference.

How would you describe the difference?

Now I think I should have connected at r5 but then again I get split in two...

but then white would jump around n5 and then what??

Why do you think us weaker players do these kind of silly mistakes?
Fighting where fighting is not needed, protecting something that requires no protecting, not protecting something that has a weakness?

The issue for Black is clearly not territory versus influence styles of play. Rather it is the basics of fighting and reading.

If White connects, Black simply connects at D18 and the corner is dead.

Huh?

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