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| Author: | Degan [ Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | When to invade/reduce - please review for black |
Attachment: While attempting to use my own strengths, I created a week group and as a result allowed my opponent to create a huge group at the bottom. Of course there may be other systematic error that I do not even realize. I have gone through the game and made comments (in the attached version, not in the inline version) at various moves. Thank you in advance. Degan |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:14 pm ] |
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Hi Degan, Quote: please review for black You were  ; did you want to review for your opp ?Grabbed the comment-free version off KGS. General comments up to LL corner fight: sense of what's big and small, off ; slow, gote sequences ; making weak groups for yourself: |
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| Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: When to invade/reduce - please review for black |
I'm going to assume that the OP means literally what he said. The following is a review for black. |
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| Author: | Degan [ Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: When to invade/reduce - please review for black |
Hello EdLee, Thank you very much for the review. I was white and I appreciate you seeing through my erroneous subject. You have given me some great things to work on in my next games. I expect I will go through your review more in the future to work on my shape. I approached what I can see as the small area on the lower right, as I was concerned about not having the chance to invade later. I now see that I must continue to look for and playing into the largest remaining areas. When my opponent made several two space extensions on the fourth line, I thought of that as an overplay, that I would find a weakness to exploit, but my local play was wrong. First, I will research what is Leela and how to "ask" it. Thank you, Degan |
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| Author: | Degan [ Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: When to invade/reduce - please review for black |
Hello Joaz Banbeck, I appreciate you making a review as well, and following my stated request. I also appreciate that you showed variations for white as well as black. I will have plenty to try to apply in my next games. Thank you, Degan |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:54 pm ] |
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Hi Degan, Currently it's a bit of work; please see under Computer Go from the main forum. Examples: LeelaZero Lizzie |
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| Author: | Degan [ Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: |
Hello EdLee, EdLee wrote: Currently it's a bit of work; please see under Computer Go from the main forum. Examples: LeelaZero Lizzie I did not have much trouble. I went to https://senseis.xmp.net and searched for Leela. This game me the link to: https://www.sjeng.org/leela.html where I was able to download a Windows installer, that went smoothly. I loaded this game and went through the moves. It is interesting. Thanks, Degan |
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| Author: | dfan [ Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: When to invade/reduce - please review for black |
Note that when Ed says "Leela" he means "Leela Zero" (I think). But Leela is good to analyze with too, just not as strong (which is not always a bad thing). |
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