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Author:  tekesta [ Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:40 pm ]
Post subject:  A 90-point loss(!)

Tonight I played against a friend of mine and I've lost all 3 of my games against him so far, including this one. Never mind that I played on less thinking time than he did; he is likely a couple of stones stronger than me and there was a time in his life when he played daily without fail for 2 years straight (before I met him). If I took some more time to think my moves through the best I could hope for is a narrower margin of defeat. I might have to ask him for a handicap next time I play him, but then I might have too comfortable of a game. Finally, I need to stop getting bogged down in local fights and tenuki more!

Much obliged in advance for your comments!


Author:  SoDesuNe [ Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A 90-point loss(!)

I can recommend the following opening advice:

Uberdude wrote:
Here is the opening gospel according to LZ, play the following moves if possible in order from top to bottom (he negative ones are for urgent local situations):
-3) if your 3-4 is being pressed, answer
-2) if your 4-4 is 3-3 invaded, answer it
-1) if your 4-4 is double approached, attach out
1) play in empty corner
2) approach (low) or enclose (big high) a 3-4
3) press if they ignored your approach to 3-4
4) approach or 3-3 invade a 4-4
5) double approach a 4-4
6) enclose from 4-4

You will notice side moves are nowhere to be seen. Corners before sides, as the old proverb says.


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Author:  tekesta [ Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A 90-point loss(!)

[admin]
Two games in one thread can lead to confusion.
I took the liberty of starting a new thread about this game.
If you want to comment on it, please go to https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 06#p255406
-JB
[/admin]



I played against my friend again and I was able to obtain a 10.5-point victory this time.



Attachments:
ERPXDXVJVU.sgf [6.23 KiB]
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Author:  Joaz Banbeck [ Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A 90-point loss(!)

SoDesuNe wrote:
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If your opponent attaches you - in general - should always answer because otherwise you'll get outnumbered in an area where you played first.

A or B seem fine.


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SoDesuNe's advice to extend or hane is good. However, in this particular situation, I would extend at 'c', making a rather large corner, and leaving white with no good moves.

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[go]$$ Seemingly natural moves don't work for white.
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