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Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Fighting game |
I probably overplayed here and there. But it was fun. Any comments are welcome. |
Author: | topazg [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
Really nice opening by the way. I much prefer Black after 40 moves. ![]() ![]() White chose a funny, game-crippling "joseki" in the top left ![]() By ![]() White should play at F12 anywhere between moves 100 and 110 E12 at 114 is still very awkward for Black. |
Author: | Horibe [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
I would like to see someone strong comment on black 19. Is this a new joseki? c7 is what I am used to seeing - and c7 has the advantage of shutting down alot of aji against the corner. Still Joaz's move has a certain appeal - if a strong player cannot demonstrate a huge flaw... |
Author: | topazg [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
Horibe wrote: I would like to see someone strong comment on black 19. Is this a new joseki? c7 is what I am used to seeing - and c7 has the advantage of shutting down alot of aji against the corner. Still Joaz's move has a certain appeal - if a strong player cannot demonstrate a huge flaw... I agree, C7 is what I expect to see. The only thing I dislike about Joaz's move is that it leaves a fair bit of aji around C10 because White can then hit in at C7. However, I'm not qualified to see if Joaz's move is better in some circumstances. |
Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
topazg wrote: Horibe wrote: I would like to see someone strong comment on black 19. Is this a new joseki? c7 is what I am used to seeing - and c7 has the advantage of shutting down alot of aji against the corner. Still Joaz's move has a certain appeal - if a strong player cannot demonstrate a huge flaw... I agree, C7 is what I expect to see. The only thing I dislike about Joaz's move is that it leaves a fair bit of aji around C10 because White can then hit in at C7. However, I'm not qualified to see if Joaz's move is better in some circumstances. I did note that there might be some overplays. ![]() FWIW: Looking at dailyjoseki, C7 is the second most common reply. The most common is to tenuki. |
Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:28 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
Horibe wrote: ... demonstrate a huge flaw... I found the huge flaw. White plays C7, black must block at D7. Next white plays C5. Black must block again. Then B6 is atari and black's position is a wreck. |
Author: | HermanHiddema [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
Joaz Banbeck wrote: Horibe wrote: ... demonstrate a huge flaw... I found the huge flaw. White plays C7, black must block at D7. Next white plays C5. Black must block again. Then B6 is atari and black's position is a wreck. Black should respond to C7 with B7: The result is, IMO, inferior for Black to the usual results here, but at least it isn't devastating. |
Author: | HermanHiddema [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
Other general comments: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() :b101: Bad shape. You can lean with M16. :w104: Horrible, should be M14. :b135: proper shape would be G18 :b147: Always take the ko once! :b161: Game over :b175: B6 is sente for the cut at E5... :b187: The geta works if you want these stones |
Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
Thanks, everyone. I can't believe that I overlooked the fact that I could take the ko. ![]() |
Author: | Numsgil [ Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
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Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
Numsgil wrote: :b67: at H5? Or did you consider the stones dead anyway and you wanted to prevent white from building thickness? I completely missed it. ![]() |
Author: | Numsgil [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
The circle is now complete. Now *I* am the master. ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fighting game |
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