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Author:  jms [ Wed May 16, 2012 4:21 pm ]
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This was a game from this evening on KGS. I was maybe not feeling the sharpest, and so didn't read things through that well, but would appreciate some comments on where I need to put in more work. I feel my Tesuji skills are very poor, but my worst skills are in fighting..


Author:  Bill Spight [ Wed May 16, 2012 4:54 pm ]
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Author:  mogosoup [ Wed May 16, 2012 6:23 pm ]
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I'm not sure but I think 15 was a joseki error on Black's part.

See this


Black is cut in two and one group is under heavy attack (or maybe even dead)?

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Author:  illluck [ Wed May 16, 2012 7:19 pm ]
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This is the one I usually use. If I just need to connect to the original stone, I use the below:


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Author:  EdLee [ Wed May 16, 2012 7:44 pm ]
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mogosoup wrote:
Black is cut in two and one group is under heavy attack (or maybe even dead)?
No, your cut is too soon for W. See vars.

Author:  mogosoup [ Wed May 16, 2012 10:13 pm ]
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EdLee wrote:
mogosoup wrote:
Black is cut in two and one group is under heavy attack (or maybe even dead)?
No, your cut is too soon for W. See vars.


I now understand that the cut is too early, but black's hane is also too early right? Is variation 2 in your diagram better?

Author:  EdLee [ Thu May 17, 2012 2:56 am ]
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mogosoup, :b7: extend at Q15 is joseki, as mentioned in the SGF. :)

Author:  jms [ Thu May 17, 2012 4:33 pm ]
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Thanks - very helpful. I clearly messed up that corner! :)

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