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Author:  Uzziel [ Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:58 pm ]
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http://www.online-go.com/games/board.php?boardID=380153


Thanks for looking over my game.

Let me know where i am lacking.


Thanks!
Author:  SoDesuNe [ Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:09 pm ]
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You can't really say much out of a 9*9 games. It's all about reading/fighting there and you might not have played the best moves anytime, but this is not comparable to Go on a 19*19 board. So I would say, better show some games on the common board size.
Author:  Uzziel [ Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:11 pm ]
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SoDesuNe wrote:
You can't really say much out of a 9*9 games. It's all about reading/fighting there and you might not have played the best moves anytime, but this is not comparable to Go on a 19*19 board. So I would say, better show some games on the common board size.



I am playing more than one board size. I have got comments (that pointed out big errors) by Uberdude previously, and that is why I am posting another 9x9 game.

I am also playing a 13x13 and 19x19 as we are speaking so those games are also coming along.
Author:  Uzziel [ Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:16 pm ]
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SoDesuNe wrote:
You can't really say much out of a 9*9 games. It's all about reading/fighting there and you might not have played the best moves anytime, but this is not comparable to Go on a 19*19 board. So I would say, better show some games on the common board size.



Also I have a feeling that it depends on how 9x9 is played. I do not think it is all about reading, and capturing as I have learned how to develop territory, defend territory, and fight for territory using this board size. I am really starting to be comfortable with 9x9 and about to move on to 13x13 focusing on the same things.

After I feel comfortable with that size I will move on to the 19x19.

I do feel like I have gained alot more understanding than just reading/fighting from the 9x9 board. Cho Chi Kun has an example in the first chapter of his book on a 9x9 board, and replaying that game over and over gave me a feel for what the whole point of go is about.

I really have a feeling 9x9 is just a smaller version of the full size game. It is like playing GO in micro form.
Author:  emeraldemon [ Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:22 pm ]
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Personally I enjoy 9x9 games sometimes, it's good fighting practice :)




EDIT: link to corner position: http://senseis.xmp.net/?TwoStoneCornerSqueeze

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Author:  SoDesuNe [ Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:26 pm ]
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If it suits you, by all means continue =)

Personally, I had exactly the opposite experience when I startet out playing Go. 9*9 seemed soothing for me at the beginning since there was so much empty space on a 19*19. But by the time I got to play on the big board, I was even more lost than before because now you have to actually play a sensible opening, you have to know which lines are preferred to play on (the whole concept of influence is lacking on 9*9) and while you pretty much clash your stones on a 9*9, it's very bad to always play near your opponent on the big board.
I think 9*9 is pretty much another game, heavily focussed on not losing your stones.

But that's me, I really like to help with the 19*19 games then ^^
Author:  peppernut [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:05 am ]
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You could use some reinforcement of life and death problems (just like everyone else!).

The white lower left corner was not yet alive for most the game. Therefore a hane along the left side, which robs him of an eye, will threaten the entire group. Take a look at :b43: where you descended instead. White actually didn't have to answer this. If you hane instead, he has to answer in the corner, making two eyes there. The hane defends your side territory in sente.

It's only one point in score, but it's the understanding that's important.
Author:  emeraldemon [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:23 am ]
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peppernut wrote:
You could use some reinforcement of life and death problems (just like everyone else!).

The white lower left corner was not yet alive for most the game. Therefore a hane along the left side, which robs him of an eye, will threaten the entire group. Take a look at :b43: where you descended instead. White actually didn't have to answer this. If you hane instead, he has to answer in the corner, making two eyes there. The hane defends your side territory in sente.

It's only one point in score, but it's the understanding that's important.


I'm not sure I agree with this. Yes, the hane is sente, but it's gote for white to play there and a smallish number of points. I'd rather save it for a ko threat in case a ko comes up later.

Edit: also as a terminology point, I think the white corner should be called alive. It only dies if white ignores a move by black.
Author:  FlameBlade [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:14 pm ]
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Um. Quibbling over a hane, when black could have killed directly after white ignored move 35. Throw in at B1.
Author:  Uzziel [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:43 pm ]
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FlameBlade wrote:
Um. Quibbling over a hane, when black could have killed directly after white ignored move 35. Throw in at B1.


Sigh... :scratch: Why do I miss these things?
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