It is currently Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:47 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
Author Message
Offline
 Post subject: Breaking through to 4k
Post #1 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:23 am 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1810
Liked others: 490
Was liked: 365
Rank: KGS 1-dan
To show, that I'm at least partially successful with my training =D




I think, I screwed up my top right corner, for a second I was afraid he would cut me apart.

_________________
My "guide" to become stronger in Go

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Breaking through to 4k
Post #2 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:05 pm 
Lives in gote
User avatar

Posts: 614
Liked others: 28
Was liked: 65
Rank: 1 Kyu KGS
KGS: Numsgil
I'm presumably weaker, but the opening felt off to me.

Black 7: This seems to be the wrong side to me. With the corner enclosure, I would have gone at R 12. But with the bottom 3-4 stone being low on this side, maybe it is time to defend down there.

But definitely by move 20 all your corner enclosures have been cramped along their desired direction of play. You've more or less got 3 corners, so I'm not sure if you're worse off. But it certainly isn't "by the book".

_________________
1k KGS

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Breaking through to 4k
Post #3 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:09 pm 
Dies with sente

Posts: 80
Liked others: 14
Was liked: 1
Rank: 1d
GD Posts: 95
:b39:th move should be at d6 - D6 brings pain to white stones, while d7 does a lot less

You have to re-read upper right situation, you got totally outplayed there :<

Very good readin in 81- 95 sequence!

:b113: Could be at m2 - This slide is the most iritating thing on the world, try it next time ^^

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Breaking through to 4k
Post #4 Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:31 am 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1810
Liked others: 490
Was liked: 365
Rank: KGS 1-dan
Numsgil
You're right, I could have approach from top and take a little bit of an extension there, but that would probably lead to me getting Gote on the right side, because if White extends down the side, he can easily approach my 3*4 next, so I should defend and then he might take my bottom extension, too, making himself a nice extension from his Hoshi.
I think I'm better off with the Ogeima enclosure, which is kind of safe as long White doesn't play R8

k43r
Yeah, with move 39 I somehow flashbacked to a Taisha-variation from a Shusaku game. Of course the situation was completely different but I already clicked : D

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W Old Taisha Variation
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 0 1 . . . . .
$$ | . . 6 4 7 . . . .
$$ | . . X 3 2 8 . . .
$$ | . . 9 5 O . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ ------------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W Old Taisha Variation
$$ | . . a . . . . . .
$$ | . 2 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . . X X O . . . .
$$ | . . X O X X . . .
$$ | . . O O O . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . 3 . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ ------------------[/go]


'a' was the move I somehow flashbacked to, which was played later on by Shusaku.

In the top right I think, I just should have extended to O17 in response to White's attachment. But well, although he took the corner very easy he put his right and top group in mortal danger, while mmy gorup was fine, so I was still satisfied.

I must admit, I didn't read much anymore in the end, but I considered M2. It's just that I wouldn't have liked it, when White plays the diagonal attachment and pushes me on the second line. This would heavily reduce my corner, if I'm not mistaking.

_________________
My "guide" to become stronger in Go

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Breaking through to 4k
Post #5 Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:48 am 
Lives in sente
User avatar

Posts: 914
Liked others: 391
Was liked: 162
Rank: German 2 dan
Numsgil wrote:
Black 7: This seems to be the wrong side to me. With the corner enclosure, I would have gone at R 12. But with the bottom 3-4 stone being low on this side, maybe it is time to defend down there.

But definitely by move 20 all your corner enclosures have been cramped along their desired direction of play. You've more or less got 3 corners, so I'm not sure if you're worse off. But it certainly isn't "by the book".


This is a common misconception that overemphasizes the extension from a shimari. Making a shimari is a very big opening move, most often bigger than the extension that potentially follows. In the formation on the right side, I think that most professionals would play an approach to the lower right corner instead of the wedge. Usually that would be a low and far kakari to make a pincer more costly, I think. The way the game developed, White only established a fairly stable group on the right, but Black got two shimari and sente.

_________________
A good system naturally covers all corner cases without further effort.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Breaking through to 4k
Post #6 Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:56 am 
Gosei

Posts: 1387
Liked others: 139
Was liked: 111
GD Posts: 209
KGS: Marcus316
Wow, man ... that's some awesome progress. Congrats!

I think I need to find some time to study ... everyone's getting closer or overtaking me in rank. :P (To stave off the imminent "Rank doesn't matter!" posts, please read this statement with a touch of humour. I'm a busy guy, and I'm happy with the way my Go is progressing, though it is a slow path ...)

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Breaking through to 4k
Post #7 Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:16 pm 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 2060
Location: Texas
Liked others: 546
Was liked: 173
Rank: KGS 3k
GD Posts: 264
KGS: Chew
Congratulations, it's great to hear all your work is paying off!

_________________
Someday I want to be strong enough to earn KGS[-].

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group