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Ruleset comparison. winner-loser reversals.
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Author:  rhwocns [ Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Ruleset comparison. winner-loser reversals.

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Chinese rules: 177 − 176.75 = White wins by 0.25
Japanese rules: 7 − 6.5 = Black wins by 0.5



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$$ - . . O O O X X X . . . . X O O . . . . -
$$ - . . O O O X O O X X X . X X X . . . . -
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$$ - O O O X X X X O O O O O X O O . . . . -
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$$ - X O O O O O X O O O O O X X O X X . . -
$$ - X X O O O X X O O O O O X O O O O . . -
$$ - X O O O X X . X X X O O O X X X O O O -
$$ - . X X O X . . . . X O O X X O X X X O -
$$ - . X . X X . X X . X O O O O O O X X X -
$$ - X . X . . . . . X X O O X X X X X X . -
$$ - . . . . . . . . X O O O O X X . . . X -
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
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$$ - O O O O O X X X . . . . X . O O O O O -
$$ - . . . . . X O O O O O . X X X . . . . -
$$ - . O O X X X O O O O O . X O O . . . . -
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ - . . O O O O X X X X X X X X O O . . . -
$$ - . . O O O X X X X X X X X O O O . . . -
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$$ - . . . . . . . X X X O O O O O O X X X -
$$ - . . . X . . . X X X O O X X X X X . . -
$$ - . . . . . . . X X O O O O X . . . . . -
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Author:  EdLee [ Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:15 am ]
Post subject: 

The first SGF: komi 7.5; the final diagram: komi 6.5

Author:  mhlepore [ Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ruleset comparison. winner-loser reversals.

White got last dame, and no seki or weird bent-four stuff.

So result should be equivalent in both rulesets, yes?

Author:  Harleqin [ Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ruleset comparison. winner-loser reversals.

mhlepore wrote:
White got last dame, and no seki or weird bent-four stuff.

So result should be equivalent in both rulesets, yes?


Yes, and it is. As EdLee pointed out, the only difference is the komi. If you give White one more point, then, all other things being equal (or equivalent…), White has one more point.

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