Thanks for these reports, Robert.
They make me dream of attending the EGC someday
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| Author: | RobertJasiek [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | EGC 2015 Side Go Tournaments |
The European Go Congress 2015 had a couple of side go tournaments usually using AGA Rules except for Pairgo. The Go European Team Championship 2014/2015 is not exactly such a tournament, but it has become custom to use a congress venue to hold the finals of that tournament on two days "before" the congress really starts, i.e., on the registration day and the day before. Code: Board Points Game Points # Team G BP 1 2 3 4 Pen W D L P 1 France 3 8 1 2 3 2 0 2 1 0 5 2 Ukraine 3 8 1 3 2 2 0 2 1 0 5 3 Czechia 3 5 2 1 1 1 0 1 0 2 2 4 Romania 3 3 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 3 0 During the prize giving, this resulted in the Marseillaise being sung by the French in a soccer-like manner. Ugh. The 13x13 Tournament consisted of a groups and KO stage, used 8.5 komi, the handicap system 5 ranks = 2, then 3 etc. stones, per same handicap stone number the komi reduced by 2 per rank, 13 minutes sudden death. Why 13 minutes? Hm. I like 30 minutes more. Every group consisted of 6 players. Since the organisers failed to inform about proper pairings, some groups needed more than 5 rounds to finish their round-robin. 32 players were qualified to the KO. Code: 1 Sun Sai 3d CN (5d in real life but the organisers set 3d) 2 Chan Yi-Tien 7d TW 3 Frejlak Stanislaw 4d PL In the semi-final game between Sun and Frejlak, Sun attacked improperly, a ko fight emerged, Frejlak failed to play the one, only and obvious negative ko threat, Sun took her chance and won a game she might as well have lost. The final game was a high level exercise in shinogi, very early test moves and choosing the right reductions before a somewhat demanding endgame. IIRC, Sun won by 3.5 but this rather great score (for the small board) does not indicate how difficult the game actually was. Quite appropriate for a final game. The 9x9 Tournament had groups and KO stage, used 6.5 komi, the handicap system 10 ranks = 2, then 3 etc. stones, per same handicap stone number the komi reduced by 1 per rank (i.e., negative komi were possible), 9 minutes sudden death. Why 9...? These short thinking times lead to lots of games decided by who fails to become aware of his option to win on time and then loses because both players overlook that the times are exiting. The tournament started 45 delayed. Some groups had more participants than others because some were missing. After I had finished playing in my group and qualified, the organisers came to inform us that then another player might enter our group and we should play several more rounds. I objected because, after having felt the joy of being qualified, I considered it inappropriate to be stolen my joy. The organisers were cute and let us group members vote: the others were in favour of letting the extra player enter our group. Ugh, what could I do? A moment later, the organisers found out that there was a different group with even fewer participants and they let the extra player play there. Ugh, so I was qualified after all! Had the organisers failed to familiarise themselves with the concept of global tiebreakers? http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/groupko.txt In some group(s), there was a tie for the top places. The organisers then let play tiebreak games among three mutually tied players. AFAIK, with 7 minutes thinking time. Needless to say, this delayed the start of the KO finals which thus ended at 0:15. Code: 1 Chan Yi-Tien 7d TW 2 Frejlak Stanislaw 4d PL 3 Surma Mateusz 8d PL Do you notice some same names as in the 13x13? Frejlak used the same opening in his semi-final game against Surma and final game: Code: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . # . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Lightning Tournament had 10 minutes sudden death, full handicap up to 9 stones, groups and KO stages. The groups had very different sizes. 16 players were in the KO, which I did not watch because I played my 5th Kreml game to win my 3rd:) Code: 1 Kim Young-Sam 7d KR 2 Chan Yi-Tien 7d TW 3 Lukas Podpera 6d CZ You recall the name Chan, do you? Rapid, 30' SD, 299 players, up to 9 rounds: Code: 1 Chan Yi-Tien 7d TW 8 2 Wang Zheming 8d CN 8 3 Surma Mateusz 8d PL 7 There were special prizes for players with good winning percentages. Other go tournaments: - Rengo - Children - Ladies (with some men disguised as women) - Pairgo - Pairgo Side Tournament - Beer (the more beers you drink the more unethical the tournament becomes or so) - Veterans (50+) - Team - Computer Go |
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| Author: | gamesorry [ Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: EGC 2015 Side Go Tournaments |
Wow, I wonder if it's the same girl... I played with Sun Sai (and she beated me easily) in 1998 when we were both young children... |
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| Author: | Matti [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: EGC 2015 Side Go Tournaments |
I took a chance and registered into pair go tournament. It was supposed to start 16.00, so there was a small risk that my tournament game in the main tournament would not get finished in time. Anyway, I finished the game early enough. We, the pair go players were then asked to come to the Expo hall (where the tournament was player) at 15.15. The was some talk about pair go first, then the presence of registered pairs was verified. Then they showed a film while they were making the pairing. However the handicap group where I played managed to get started only about 17.00. The fourth round was about to start at 22.00 and because it was late my wife got us out from the tournament. In my opinion side tournaments should be scheduled in a way that at least players who do not qualify for the finals don't have to play at night. |
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| Author: | Kirby [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: EGC 2015 Side Go Tournaments |
Thanks for these reports, Robert. They make me dream of attending the EGC someday
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| Author: | RobertJasiek [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: EGC 2015 Side Go Tournaments |
I have not mentioned so far, but OC there were also a couple of teaching professionals 1p - 9p. As usual, Hayashi Kozo 6p was the most active and, in the free playing area, most popular. E.g., he did not only comment on a few of my games (and on my center style, "I understand your style.", applying its theory to one of my ordinary opening games), but he even showed for further explanation one of his own games played last year using my center style, and I wonder whether he had played it for the very purpose of better commenting on my games during this EGC... During his first EGC 2011, he used to be slightly drunk while commenting. Meanwhile his beer consumption has become more defensive (but I do not know whether he continued commenting during the night in the pubs). During the EGC 2013, I played an even game center style opening (successful) against him only to die in a corner and got his ironic advice "I do not like tsumego", which he still uses when commenting on some other players' games. In 2014, he played simultaneous also against me on handicap 2, and I beat him during the endgame, which started during the early middle game. This year, he praised me for that game: "You beat me, your endgame is stronger than mine!" I objected, but he insisted to show me that I should create early endgame positions to increase my winning chances. Saijo Masataka (then 8p) was even more active during EGCs, but his successor in spirit, Hayashi, takes his teaching task more seriously and tries hard to offer insight surely useful for the pupils' learning. |
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