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Author:  bazilxp [ Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:38 am ]
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EGC 2011 - European Go Congress Team Round 1
http://gokifu.com/s/m10 Dmytro Bogatsky(6d)-Alexander Dinerchtein(3p)(w) W+16.50
http://gokifu.com/s/m11 Pal Balogh(7d)-Pop Christian(7d)(w) w+6.5
http://gokifu.com/s/m12 Ilia Shikshin(7d)-Artem Kachanovsky(7d)(w) w+2.5
http://gokifu.com/s/m13 Taranu Catalin(5p)- Mero_Csaba(7d)(w) B+R

EGC 2011 - European Go Congress Team Round 2
http://gokifu.com/s/m1g Artem Kachanovsky(7d)-Taranu Catalin(5p)(w) b +6.5
http://gokifu.com/s/m1a Christian Pop(7d)-Dmytro Bogatsky(6d)(w) w+1.5
http://gokifu.com/it/s/m1f Csaba Mero(6d)-Ilia Shikshin(7d) (w) w+r
http://gokifu.com/it/s/m1j Alexander Dinerchtein(3p)-Pal Balogh(6d)(w) w+13.5


EGC 2011 - European Go Congress Main Round 1
http://gokifu.com/s/m24 Ilia Shikshin(7d)-Dusan Mitic(6d)(w) B+R
http://gokifu.com/s/m28 Benjamin Teuber(6d)-Alexander Dinerchtein(3p)(w) W+R
http://gokifu.com/s/m2a Taranu Catalin(5p)-Blomback Fredrik(6d)(w) B+R

Author:  bazilxp [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:54 pm ]
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EGC 2011 - European Go Congress - Round 3 Team Championship
http://gokifu.com/s/m34 Catalin Taranu(5p)-Ilya Shikshin(7d)(w) W +12.5
http://gokifu.com/s/m35 Alexander_Dinerchtein(3p)-Christian_Pop(7d)(w) W+R
http://gokifu.com/s/m2z Pal Balogh - Dmytro_Bogatsky(w) B+R

Author:  ez4u [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: EGC 2011 - European Go Congress

Is it a feature or just a mistake that the results page does not list the player numbers, so that you can not easily tell who played whom? Is this a setting in OpenGotha that could be quickly changed?

Author:  masek [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:35 pm ]
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ez4u wrote:
Is it a feature or just a mistake that the results page does not list the player numbers, so that you can not easily tell who played whom? Is this a setting in OpenGotha that could be quickly changed?



Hey Pal , i have designed my own version of table of GoKifu EGC results http://gokifu.com/egc2011/ , and there are also games in table!

Probably OpenGotcha soon will be changed:)

Author:  ez4u [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:20 pm ]
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masek wrote:
ez4u wrote:
Is it a feature or just a mistake that the results page does not list the player numbers, so that you can not easily tell who played whom? Is this a setting in OpenGotha that could be quickly changed?



Hey Pal , i have designed my own version of table of GoKifu EGC results http://gokifu.com/egc2011/ , and there are also games in table!

Probably OpenGotcha soon will be changed:)


Thanks, more useful than the official site! :tmbup:

Author:  masek [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:20 am ]
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ez4u wrote:
masek wrote:
ez4u wrote:
Is it a feature or just a mistake that the results page does not list the player numbers, so that you can not easily tell who played whom? Is this a setting in OpenGotha that could be quickly changed?



Hey Pal , i have designed my own version of table of GoKifu EGC results http://gokifu.com/egc2011/ , and there are also games in table!

Probably OpenGotcha soon will be changed:)


Thanks, more useful than the official site! :tmbup:

You are welcome. If any games from EGC 2011 , Just send me to bazilxp@gmail.com , i will put them in table also :)

Author:  hyperpape [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:18 am ]
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It would be nice to have number of wins for each player on the alternate pairings/results site.

Author:  topazg [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:43 am ]
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OMG:

http://gokifu.com/s/m8q

Author:  tj86430 [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:03 am ]
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topazg wrote:

Why does it say W+37,5?

I get 56 for black and 50 for white.

Author:  bazilxp [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:14 am ]
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tj86430 wrote:
topazg wrote:

Why does it say W+37,5?

I get 56 for black and 50 for white.



Fixed this issue

Author:  tj86430 [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: EGC 2011 - European Go Congress

bazilxp wrote:
tj86430 wrote:
topazg wrote:

Why does it say W+37,5?

I get 56 for black and 50 for white.



Fixed this issue

Is the komi 8,5 then? If the komi is 0,5 like it says, I still think black won

Author:  jts [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: EGC 2011 - European Go Congress

@topazg:
Is the :o :o about the last eight moves? Did that actually happen, or is it a problem with the game record?

@tj:
It says Japanese rules, but under area rules it is W+2.5, and doesn't the EGC play under Ing (i.e. area) rules?

Author:  tj86430 [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:07 am ]
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jts wrote:
@tj:
It says Japanese rules, but under area rules it is W+2.5, and doesn't the EGC play under Ing (i.e. area) rules?

Ok, I counted with japanese. I didn't think the difference would be so big.

Author:  jts [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:24 am ]
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tj86430 wrote:
jts wrote:
@tj:
It says Japanese rules, but under area rules it is W+2.5, and doesn't the EGC play under Ing (i.e. area) rules?

Ok, I counted with japanese. I didn't think the difference would be so big.

I believe that in handicap games Japanese and area counting will be off by the number of handicap stones, right?

Author:  daniel_the_smith [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:54 am ]
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jts wrote:
I believe that in handicap games Japanese and area counting will be off by the number of handicap stones, right?


I think area counting normally gives a bonus to white of 1/2 the number of handicap stones.

Author:  daal [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: EGC 2011 - European Go Congress

ez4u wrote:
Is it a feature or just a mistake that the results page does not list the player numbers, so that you can not easily tell who played whom? Is this a setting in OpenGotha that could be quickly changed?


After each game, there is something like this: b0+45. B means the player had black, the number is the current rank of the opponent, and a plus sign means the player won the game and a minus indicates a loss, so it's not so hard to see who played whom and who won. I don't know what the zero is for.

Author:  hyperpape [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:51 am ]
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I think it's changed and that before it didn't list the ranks when two players were tied. So you had fifteen players tied after one round, and you couldn't easily see who "b0+12" was indicating.

Author:  HermanHiddema [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:34 am ]
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daal wrote:
ez4u wrote:
Is it a feature or just a mistake that the results page does not list the player numbers, so that you can not easily tell who played whom? Is this a setting in OpenGotha that could be quickly changed?


After each game, there is something like this: b0+45. B means the player had black, the number is the current rank of the opponent, and a plus sign means the player won the game and a minus indicates a loss, so it's not so hard to see who played whom and who won. I don't know what the zero is for.


The 0 is the handicap. The usual format would be 45+/b0, 45+/b or just 45+, I have no idea why OpenGotha is doing it backwards like this, it's confusing. :scratch:

Author:  bazilxp [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: EGC 2011 - European Go Congress

Cornel Burzo, provided his games from EGC2011 http://gokifu.com/player/Cornel+Burzo Main 5 rounds + team championship .

Blitz Final
http://gokifu.com/s/mdb - Jan Simara(5d)-Ilya_Shikshin(7d)(w) W+R
http://gokifu.com/s/mda - Jeon Sang Young(7d) - Christian Pop(7d) (w) W+T

Author:  gaius [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: EGC 2011 - European Go Congress

topazg wrote:

Wow, Nikola Mitic plays this game really really strongly. Particularly the sequence from 72 to 98 is really powerful. He loses only by komi, and that against a 9 dan professional. Hats off!

By the way - I'm assuming the last 8 moves are a mistake from the scribe? And what about komi? If komi would indeed be 0.5 points as the record says, black actually wins this game!

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