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Of those systems on offer, which would you support
Poll ended at Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:59 pm
Current System 38%  38%  [ 8 ]
Russian Proposal 29%  29%  [ 6 ]
Martian Stiassny's Proposal 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jana Hricova Proposal-1 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jana Hricova Proposal-2 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Matti Siivola Proposal 1 24%  24%  [ 5 ]
Matti Siivola Proposal 2 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Matti Siivola Proposal 3 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Matti Siivola Proposal 4 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Matti Siivola Proposal 5 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 21
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Post #1 Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:59 pm 
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Please, only vote if you are European :)

For reference, you can read about the proposals here
You will only be voting for the parts about reformation of the European Championship

http://ktt.hjelt.helsinki.fi/msiivola/g ... osals.html
http://www.eurogofed.org/egf/proposals2010ru.pdf
http://www.eurogofed.org/egf/proposals2010ec1.pdf
http://www.eurogofed.org/egf/proposals2010ec2.pdf

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Post #2 Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:02 pm 
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The proposals tagged "Matti Siivola" are on his webpage, of which he wrote the text, but the proposals were created by or in cooperation also with different people.

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Post #3 Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:30 am 
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The link to Matti Siivola's proposals in the OP does not work. I looked at Matti Siivola's page, and could not find a link to the proposals there...

Though I've played at a European Go Congress, I'm not European and won't vote in this poll, but it seems a shame that the proposals in Matti Siivola's page are not properly linked. Or is it just a problem on my end?

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Post #4 Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:13 am 
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Recusant wrote:
The link to Matti Siivola's proposals in the OP does not work. I looked at Matti Siivola's page, and could not find a link to the proposals there...

Though I've played at a European Go Congress, I'm not European and won't vote in this poll, but it seems a shame that the proposals in Matti Siivola's page are not properly linked. Or is it just a problem on my end?


Well http://ktt.hjelt.helsinki.fi/msiivola/g ... osals.html certainly works for me. Apologies if I malformed it.

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Post #5 Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:28 pm 
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The URL problem is this forum's feature-bug to shorten links. If you want to see the full links, you can find them in the related rec.games.go threads. Or you copy the following into a text editor, remove the linebreaks, then paste it into your browser:

http://ktt.hjelt.helsinki.fi
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Post #6 Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:26 am 
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Well, I would add the requirement that any candidate for the EC should also take part in the Open EC. If not, some players might elect to play only in the EC which might give them an unfair advantage and also affect non European attendance.

One could argue that the 2009 decision "EC should not be affected by non-European players" means that no EC candidate may play a non European in the open tournament - lest that affect their concentration/tiredness in an EC tournament. However I don't think that was the intention of the 2009 decision.

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Post #7 Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:33 am 
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There are different possible ways of setting extra tournaments or requirements for player movements. One might set an afternoon Top Players Tournament and either require or not require attendance; likewise one might (subject to fitting schedules) do either for EC players in the Open-EC; certainly for players dropping out of the EC.

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