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Post #21 Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:24 pm 
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2nd pro-game of the week! No Leela analysis this time, I'm not entirely sure how much I get out of it. Often it leads to laziness and just letting Leela show me variations instead of reading them myself

I also watched a couple of videos of the recent European tournament final between Pavol Lisy and Ilya Shikshin but didn't look much into it myself

This time it's Kim Cheayoung 3p vs Yu Zhiying 6p. Compared to the last game I think these two play in a style I much prefer, I felt like the game had more of a natural flow to it and I enjoyed going over it alot.



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Post #22 Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:56 pm 
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Recently I've been on something of a down turn, not just in terms of wins/losses but in terms of how I feel about my game. Even games I win I don't feel I played well and sometimes I lose even though I felt I did. Obviously something is off about my judgement of how I'm playing but it's quite frustrating.

I still think a lot of this is down to my habit of playing blitz games during downtime at work (I work outdoors and often we have to stop for bad weather), something I really have to stop. Given how much I enjoy going over pro-games maybe this is a solution? Instead of playing myself, if I'm bored or with nothing better to do I'll go over a game or two. Even if I don't actively learn anything hopefully it won't reinforce too many bad habits.

With all that said, this is my third reviewed pro-game in as many days! This is the other semi final from the 1st Go Seigan Cup World Women's Championship, Li He (5p) as black and Choi Jeong (9p) as white



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Post #23 Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:48 am 
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So for the past three days I played in the Candidates tournament in London (the opening round of the British Championship). I wasn't aiming to get through to the next stage but the opportunity to play strong players with long time limits isn't one I wanted to miss. As it happens I played (on the whole) much better than I expected, winning 3/6 - which was my aim - and beat some tough opponents.

Of my three losses one was relatively close, one my standard of play dropped considerably for some reason (although no excuses, my opponent played well and deserved the win!) and another I made a - somewhat embarrassing - joseki mistake and ended up resigning within 40-50 moves... In light of the latter two particularly I think I'll need to work on my consistency, I'll try to learn more joseki patterns and hope that through further study I won't have to many games where I just flop halfway through.

I played last year and won 3/6 as well but I'm fairly confident that I've improved significantly since then. As such I think I want to set a long term goal for the next year or so. By the time the next candidates comes around I want to be capable of qualifying for the next stage. I'm certainly not aiming for British champion but I think it would be a good measure of progress if I managed to qualify.

I'll post my games below after I've reviewed them as I think I have something to learn from each of them

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Post #24 Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:10 am 
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Struttnoddy wrote:
By the time the next candidates comes around I want to be capable of qualifying for the next stage. I'm certainly not aiming for British champion but I think it would be a good measure of progress if I managed to qualify.

Assuming Daniel doesn't take his place in the league as he has indicated (and Des doesn't cancel his holiday to Ibiza) I think you qualified this time! :)

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Post #25 Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:17 am 
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I think you qualified this time!


Haha good to know! I'll definitely have to swot up then ;)

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Post #26 Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:27 am 
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My first two games of the candidates with my comments and a few pointers from Leela. Both are against 2 dans and both I gave good games. I won the first and lost the second but having given it a good run.

I may review two more of the games, one win and one loss again. One of my losses was due to a silly joseki mistake so there's not an awful lot to review in the first place :razz:

After that I'm going to get back to reviewing and beginning to memorise pro-games and trying to learn new joseki. I'm going to outright stop playing online for a while too. Having seen how well I can do with decent time limits and proper consideration I don't want to be reinforcing bad habits by playing silly blitz games.




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Post #27 Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 3:22 am 
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The last game I played at the candidates ended rather abruptly when I made the following joseki mistake. Foolishly and for some unknown reason I believed this move to be a tesuji (spoiler: it's not). I believe it does work in some special cases but 100% not here. Oh well, this loss has inspired me to brush up on joseki/fuseki in the hope I can give this opponent a better game come the next bank holiday!

On that note I've decided not to post my other games on here, I'm a bit exhausted of reviewing my own failings :razz: Instead I'll be learning some joseki and plonking a few on here as something of a record to come back to.

The disaster:
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[go]$$W
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 4 3 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 2 7 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 6 . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 8 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


How it should happen (black then aims at the marked positions to invade the white moyo):

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 O . . . . . . . T . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . T . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 4 3 O . T . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 2 7 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 6 . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #28 Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 3:55 am 
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A joseki sequence I quite liked the look of:

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[go]$$W
$$ --------------------+
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . 9 . |
$$ . . . . . O . 5 6 . |
$$ , . X . 1 0 3 X 7 . |
$$ . . . . . 2 4 8 . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ , . . . . . , . . . |[/go]


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[go]$$Wm11
$$ --------------------+
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ . . . . . O 1 O X . |
$$ , . X . O X O X O . |
$$ . 9 7 . 3 X X X 2 . |
$$ . . . 5 4 . . . . . |
$$ . . . 8 6 . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ , . . . . . , . . . |[/go]


Hard to tell what's an 'old' joseki or 'modern' joseki or what an AI invention etc etc. I'm sure there are resources out there that explain these a bit more. Does anyone have any recommendations for recent (ish) joseki/fuseki books (in english) that might be worth investing in?

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Post #29 Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:00 pm 
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I popped into the Durham go club tonight as I'm there for a few days studying. Had a good game against a low dan player (he wasn't exactly sure but somewhere around 1-2dan seemed right) No Leela analysis this time and my memory of the game afterwards was a mess :razz: Hopefully the game record and my general ramblings are at least vaguely coherent!



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Post #30 Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 7:48 am 
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I've spent the last 4 days playing in the 2nd stage of the British Championship. While I suffered from a fairly heavy dose of imposter syndrome going in to it I had a great time and did much better than I expected. I won 3/7 games, albeit with two lucky wins and one game I threw away. Either way I'm very happy with the result and it actually put me up to EGF/BGA 1 Dan for the first time!

I'd like to aim for 2 Dan by this time next year although it depends how many tournaments I can play and (obviously) how well I do. I'll post a couple of reviews below later today or tomorrow


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Post #31 Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:03 pm 
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Thanks to winning your last game I got through to the title match without needing to spend the afternoon on a play-off game so got home in time for my wife's yummy beef bulgogi dinner :) And yes a great result, the best performance relative to rating by quite some way. I owe you a drink or two!

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Post #32 Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:29 pm 
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Hi Struttnoddy,
Congrats on your B.C. experience.
Quote:
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[go]$$W
$$ --------------------+
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . 9 . |
$$ . . . . . O . 5 6 . |
$$ , . X . 1 0 3 X 7 . |
$$ . . . . . 2 4 8 . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
Takao shows a slightly different sequence:
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[go]$$B
$$ --------------------+
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . 4 . |
$$ . . . . . O 6 O 1 8 |
$$ , . X . O 5 O X 2 . |
$$ . . . . 9 X X 3 7 . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

Takao (2010, 5 years before AlphaGo) spends about 10 pages (25.8cm x 18.1cm) on this diagonal:
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[go]$$W
$$ --------------------+
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ , . X . 1 . , X . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

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Post #33 Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 3:51 am 
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Some analysis of my second game this weekend. I felt I played very well at the beginning and end but very poorly in the middle allowing my opponent to catch up to the massive lead I had built up at the start. Eventually I won by resignation when my opponent made an overtime end game mistake but it would have been close otherwise.

Not sure if I have the energy to review any more currently, I'm all "Go"ed out :razz:



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Post #34 Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:32 am 
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Game 5 of last weekend plus analysis, one I really should have won but allowed my opponent to turn a large moyo into solid territory.

A lesson in not getting flustered at large frameworks I think, if I had just played solidly and nibbled away at the edges I would have won. I let it get the better of me and overplayed as I thought I needed to to win, improving counting might help with that as well



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Post #35 Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:36 pm 
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I've not posted on here in quite sometime now, mainly due to work and studying commitments... But I've recently acquired a bit more inspiration to find the time to play/study Go more. With Trigantius just around the corner this seems as good a moment as any to start up practising properly again and hopefully break a few bad habits (namely blitzing online...)

I'm going to focus where I can on playing on a real board and not blitzing as much as possible. Perhaps also doing a few problems during downtime at work!

I've also been experimenting a bit recently with video reviews so here's one from today and the first one I've actually uploaded. I've found it to be much easier to review a game when I can record my thoughts while I'm playing, this has helped a lot with identifying weakness in my game. I don't know if I'll continue with it though as it can take some effort to actually process the result, even if I do find it useful

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Post #36 Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:48 am 
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Once again not been studying go much recently, my drive from earlier in the year fizzled out once again due to actual study commitments. I think I may have to just give up on the actual study of go (though obviously will keep playing) until I finish my degree in march.

That said I have played in a couple of tournaments recently, namely the opening round of the British championship (although I coudn't enter the 2nd round) and the Durham tournament. I did very well at the former (2nd overall) but not so at the latter. At Durham I only won 2/5, against a 2kyu (this forum's own Mike Kyle no less) and a 5kyu, with the former only being won on time. I lost against a 1dan (by 2 points), a 2dan and a nominal 5dan.

Given these contrasting results it strikes me that I invariably do much better in games with longer time limits, even giving some higher dan players a run for their money on occasion but in games with shorter time limits my rank seems to drop off a cliff. Without the added time for serious reading I just can't hold up my supposed rank. I have a feeling this stems from a lack of knowledge of l&d shapes and tesuji, I've never spent much time memorising these so I often have to read them out in-game rather than just 'knowing' the answer, perhaps this is losing me time?

This has left me wondering if anyone else has/has had this problem? What might people suggest to help solve the issue? Unfortunately whatever the answer it may have to wait until the new year, maybe in 2020 I can finally get around to studying up again

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Post #37 Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:25 am 
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Struttnoddy wrote:
Given these contrasting results it strikes me that I invariably do much better in games with longer time limits, even giving some higher dan players a run for their money on occasion but in games with shorter time limits my rank seems to drop off a cliff. Without the added time for serious reading I just can't hold up my supposed rank. I have a feeling this stems from a lack of knowledge of l&d shapes and tesuji, I've never spent much time memorising these so I often have to read them out in-game rather than just 'knowing' the answer, perhaps this is losing me time?

This has left me wondering if anyone else has/has had this problem? What might people suggest to help solve the issue? Unfortunately whatever the answer it may have to wait until the new year, maybe in 2020 I can finally get around to studying up again


It's natural to be weaker at shorter time limits, and it makes sense for a relatively inexperienced and improving player like yourself to decline more with little time as most of your strength comes from conscious thought rather than baked in intuition from years of experience. Probably not much of a shortcut for that over simply playing more to gain more experience, though doing some blitz games might help, plus drilling quick and easy tsumego. I'm not as bad at blitz as I used to be, but still probably drop about 3 stones in strength I guess.


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