Urgent before big... yes, I remember that one ^^ Thank you for your comments!
Correct! LZ prefers - of course - to connect the cutting point in the lower left. But if he would play an extension on the left it would have been a two-point-extension on the fourth line to D8.
Instead of extending LZ prefers to hane at S17 and then cut at P18. This one of the situations where recommended move and move with the highest win-rate don't match. Highest win-rate would be playing the cut in the lower left.
Played another round of games and - luck being on my side - won more than I should have. 2-kyu on OGS now.
On the one hand nice to have somewhat maintained my playing strength after my four year hiatus (at least in fast online play). On the other hand I still utterly suck.
Still don't really focus in my online games. Still don't read properly (or at all). Still don't think enough about direction of play and follow-ups for my moves. Still don't count. Still kill aji too early (the opponent could misplay, you know, and then I kill his whole corner!) and settle shapes too soon. Still overplay.
Then again... could I draw some consolation from the fact that those points really itch me? That I (believe to) know that certain moves are bad? That I see areas of improvement?
One thing I try to tackle in the near future is solving harder go problems. I think now that my old plan of overlearning easy problems (solving books until I managed to get at least 95% right) had the severe drawback of hardwiring my brain to spotting instead thinking/reading. I have the same sensation right now after solving easy problems on goproblems.com (18-kyu to 1-dan), GGPfB vol. 1 and 2 and this japanese 9-kyu to 1-kyu problem book. In an unfamiliar situation I plop down a stone and hope my opponent plays something I recognise. By solving harder problems I hope to achieve more focus and a mental state that it is normal to think about moves instead of #BirdBoxChallenge my way around.
Still... I'd probably tackle both Yi Ch'ang-Ho series from the beginning. I'll also go through GGPfB vol. 4. Maybe I'll have a go at Rescure and Capture and Maeda's Intermediate Level Problems. Get Strong at Tesuji interests me very much too. This just leaves out 1001-Life-and-Death-Problems, so not much learned here : D
I'm also re-reading Attack and Defend. Still undervalue capping plays in general and and overvalue capping plays when I should play to make a base by taking away the base for my opponent's stones. Still, I fared okay in the attacking problems.
I try to draw some strategic conclusions from my games in the next posts - LZ is huffing and puffing as I write.
[go]$$Bc Can B play at 'a' or does he need to defend? $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . O X X X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . X . O . O X . O O O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . X O X O O X . O X , X . . | $$ | . . X . O . X O X X O X . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . X O . . X . X O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O O X . X X O . O . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X X O O X O O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X O X . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X X O X . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X X . . . . . . . . a . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . Y Y Y O O . O . . , X X . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . Y Y O . . X X O O . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . Y . Y O . X O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . Y O . . . O . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
[go]$$Bc Black to luck his way into a win $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . X X . O X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O X O O O X X X X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O . X X O . O X . O O O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . X . X O O X . O X , X X . | $$ | . . X . O . X . X X O X . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . X O . . X . X O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O O X . X X O . O . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X X O O X O O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X O X . . X X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X X O X . X X O O O O O . . . | $$ | X X X O O O X X X O X X X X X O . . . | $$ | X O O . . O . . O O O . X . X O O . O | $$ | O O . O . O X X O . X X X O O O O O X | $$ | X O O . O O X X O O O O X X X X X X X | $$ | X X X O . . O O O . . . O . O X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O X X X O O . O . O X X X . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . X X O O X X X O O . | $$ | X . X O . X . . . X . X O . X O . O . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . X O . X O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
[go]$$Wc White to end the game $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . . . O O . . . . O X X O . O | $$ | . . O X O O O X X O O O O . . X X O . | $$ | . . O X X O X . . X X O X X . . . X . | $$ | . . O X X X X X X O X X . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O O X . . O X O X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X X X X X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O . . O O O O X X X . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X X X O O X X X X . . . X O X X . | $$ | . . . . X X O O O X . . . X O O O O X | $$ | . O O O X O . . O X . X . X . . O X X | $$ | . O X X O O O . O O O O O O X . O . O | $$ | X O X . X X O . . . X X X X . O . O . | $$ | . X X . X O O O X X . . . . . O O O O | $$ | X . O X X O X O . , O O . . X X O X . | $$ | X X O O O O X X X X X O . X X O X . X | $$ | O . X O . O X O O X . X . X O O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
[go]$$Bc B still needs to find the needed tactical shots $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . X O O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O X X X . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X X O O X . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O X O . X . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X O . X O . . . . . . O . O . X . . | $$ | . O O . X O . O . . . . O O X X . . . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . X X O . . O X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X O X O . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Keep your opponent's stones separated. Make a base. Defend cuts (especially if you have read the cut and instead of responding to your opponent's move you immediately play a shape point you threatend with your move before - too bad, you just lost your group).
[go]$$Bc Can B play at 'a' or does he need to defend? $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . O X X X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . X . O . O X . O O O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . X O X O O X . O X , X . . | $$ | . . X . O . X O X X O X . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . X O . . X . X O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O O X . X X O . O . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X X O O X O O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X O X . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X X O X . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X X . . . . . . . . a . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . Y Y Y O O . O . . , X X . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . Y Y O . . X X O O . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . Y . Y O . X O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . Y O . . . O . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
I'm pretty sure black can tenuki if he's ready to sacrifice the M1/M2 2 stones.
[go]$$Wc $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . O X X X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . X . O . O X . O O O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . X O X O O X . O X , X . . | $$ | . . X . O . X O X X O X . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . X O . . X . X O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O O X . X X O . O . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X X O O X O O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X O X . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X X O X . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X X . . . . . . . . Y . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . X X X O O . O . . , X X . | $$ | . . X O . . . . 4 X X O . . X X O O . | $$ | . . X O . . . 2 1 X 5 X O . X O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . 6 3 . X O . . . O . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
[go]$$Wc $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . O X X X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . X . O . O X . O O O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . X O X O O X . O X , X . . | $$ | . . X . O . X O X X O X . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . X O . . X . X O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O O X . X X O . O . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X X O O X O O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X O X . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X X O X . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X X . . . . . . . . Y . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . X X X O O . O . . , X X . | $$ | . . X O . . . 0 8 X X O . . X X O O . | $$ | . . X O . . 2 1 3 X 9 X O . X O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . 6 5 4 7 . X O . . . O . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
This said, there's multiple sequences, so I may have missed a way for white to kill black
[go]$$Bc Can B play at 'a' or does he need to defend? $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . O X X X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . X . O . O X . O O O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . X O X O O X . O X , X . . | $$ | . . X . O . X O X X O X . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . X O . . X . X O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O O X . X X O . O . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X X O O X O O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X O X . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X X O X . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O O O X X . . . . . . . . 1 . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . O O O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . Y Y Y O O . O . . , X X . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . Y Y O . . X X O O . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . Y . Y O . X O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . Y O . . . O . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
[go]$$Bc Black to luck his way into a win $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . X X 1 O X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . O X O O O X X X X . . . O . | $$ | . . X X O . X X O . O X . O O O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . X . X O O X . O X , X X . | $$ | . . X . O . X . X X O X . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . X O . . X . X O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O O X . X X O . O . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X X O O X O O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X O X . . X X O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X X O X . X X O O O O O . . . | $$ | X X X O O O X X X O X X X X X O . . . | $$ | X O O . . O . . O O O . X . X O O . O | $$ | O O . O . O X X O . X X X O O O O O X | $$ | X O O . O O X X O O O O X X X X X X X | $$ | X X X O . . O O O . . . O . O X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O X X X O O . O . O X X X . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . X X O O X X X O O . | $$ | X . X O . X . . . X . X O . X O . O . | $$ | . X O O . X . . . . . X O . X O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
[go]$$Wc White to end the game $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . . . O O . . . . O X X O . O | $$ | . . O X O O O X X O O O O . . X X O . | $$ | . . O X X O X . . X X O X X . . . X . | $$ | . . O X X X X X X O X X . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O O X . . O X O X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X X X X X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O . . O O O O X X X . . . X X . . | $$ | . O X X X O O X X X X . . . X O X X . | $$ | . . . . X X O O O X . . . X O O O O X | $$ | . O O O X O . . O X . X . X . . O X X | $$ | . O X X O O O . O O O O O O X . O . O | $$ | X O X . X X O . . . X X X X . O . O . | $$ | . X X . X O O O X X . . . . . O O O O | $$ | X . O X X O X O . , O O . . X X O X . | $$ | X X O O O O X X X X X O . X X O X . X | $$ | O 1 X O . O X O O X . X . X O O X X . | $$ | . X . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
[go]$$Bc B still needs to find the needed tactical shots $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . X O O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | O . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O X X X . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X X O O X . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X 1 O X O . X . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . X O . X O . . . . . . O . O . X . . | $$ | . O O . X O . O . . . . O O X X . . . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . X X O . . O X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X O X O . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X O X O X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
So, I played in our yearly tournament. One closely contested game, which I deservedly lost because I neglected to defend my groups and four won games of which I screwed up two and lost.
Two themes kept reoccuring:
1) I totally miss urgent points. Like really totally, I don't even think about playing there. 2) After roughly ten years of Go I still overvalue "moyos". Quotation marks imply that I even feel the need to invade/reduce the tiniest and fragile hint of a moyo.
To battle 2) I plan (for real this time) to make rough counts. Better be on the wrong side of a count than to never count in the first place. As of now I have no idea how to engrain playing/seeing urgent points in my games. Maybe experience, maybe reviews of my games, maybe more problems, maybe replaying pro games.
This is the closely contested game, at least up to a certain point. Last moves omitted due to byo-yomi.
Mainly playing on Fox now since seeking an opponent takes ages on OGS and KGS. Registered as a 2-kyu because I didn't know they had such a different ranking. Have been double-promoted to 1-dan today. We'll see how it goes now : D
Still solving GGPfB vol. 4 (finnished Rescue and Capture a long the way): Although I get most of them right, it does need quite a bite of time... Afterwards possible Get Strong at Tesuji. Or Maeda's Intermediate Tsumego Problems. Or the Yi Ch'ang-Ho Tsumego and Tesuji series.
Posts: 316 Liked others: 51 Was liked: 40
Rank: KGS 3D Tygem 5D
SoDesuNe wrote:
On the one hand nice to have somewhat maintained my playing strength after my four year hiatus (at least in fast online play). On the other hand I still utterly suck.
Still don't really focus in my online games. Still don't read properly (or at all). Still don't think enough about direction of play and follow-ups for my moves. Still don't count. Still kill aji too early (the opponent could misplay, you know, and then I kill his whole corner!) and settle shapes too soon. Still overplay.
Hey this sounds exactly like me right now. Welcome back as well.
SoDesuNe wrote:
I'm again suprised how difficult the last ~100 problems in GGPfB vol. 4 are. I get them right eventually but it sure requires some work.
How did you do? I scored roughly 70% on the entire run-through.
I'm again suprised how difficult the last ~100 problems in GGPfB vol. 4 are. I get them right eventually but it sure requires some work.
How did you do? I scored roughly 70% on the entire run-through.
I didn't track it but I guess it was somewhere around 85%. I could solve most of the later problems but I was surprised how long they took me. I had already solved GGPfB vol. 4 once (maybe even twice).
hl782 wrote:
SoDesuNe wrote:
On the one hand nice to have somewhat maintained my playing strength after my four year hiatus (at least in fast online play). On the other hand I still utterly suck.
Still don't really focus in my online games. Still don't read properly (or at all). Still don't think enough about direction of play and follow-ups for my moves. Still don't count. Still kill aji too early (the opponent could misplay, you know, and then I kill his whole corner!) and settle shapes too soon. Still overplay.
Hey this sounds exactly like me right now. Welcome back as well.
Ha ha ha, thanks but I'm already stepping back (again) ^^ Time and mental energy is otherwise needed (more grown up, more hassle :p)
After the go club's summer break is over, I am midly enthused to work on my Go again. Not that I'd have time in any way but I manage to play the odd game (see the second game) and even get some problems done on goproblems.com.
Here is a game I played against a regular in the club. We bounce between me giving him three to four stones since... years. He doesn't work on his Go since... ever. I occaisionally try, so... poor me.
I had to review this myself (a bit) since AI does not really handle handicap stones.
Been spending my time a bit on Get Strong at Tesuji for all the fond memories. Still a great book - bit easy now though ; )
Will probably start Yi Ch'ang-Ho tsumego and tesuji series next. Or Get Strong at Attacking.
As far as games are concerned I play in the current Nordic Go Dojo season. But not too successful. Bad time management and no feel for the game as of now (playing slow moves, playing big instead of urgent moves, no sense for attacking shape points).
At least no (really) big misreads as of now : D
I'd love to spend more time with replaying Genjo-Chitoku or Shuei or Seigen games but that's sadly not in the working man's budget.
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum