True, but I think it's quite possible to play a Protoss game where there's just as much multitasking involved. For example, a heavy Phoenix + warp prism harass play .

When I first played Zerg I wanted to kill some marines with banelings.
I had 40 or so zerglings and decided to morph them all to banelings.
So, I selected everything and hit zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
(Grid hotkeys = z for morph beneling)
(Incidentaly, grid hotkeys also = z for explode baneling)
I guess I don't have to tell you what happened when I selected everything and went to morph another couple of banelings.
-> ->

That's what I was trying to say. Eventually I'll want to have the same level of multitasking with both the races. It's always going to be beneficial to have higher APM/multitasking whichever race you play. It's just that with Zerg I need it now just for macro+scouting. With Protoss I won't need it until I get to the stage where I need to incorporate fancy things and high-level micro/harass.

So I mentioned earlier that people can add me (time.175) on bnet and I'll help them. I played one person today, which was perfectly fine and I hope it helped him improve, but it's kind of silly for me to play a bronze player. It's like a 10kyu playing a 5dan even. It's kind of hard to learn that way. The best thing to do would be to get someone else around your skill level and have me obs or something.

Also some general advice to anyone below high diamond:

1) Build more probes!!!!!1!1!!1

Seriously. Just keep making them until you're making 80 in any 20+ minute game. Then maybe you can cut back a little...

2) Watch some replays of top players (http://www.sc2rep.com)

Since your build orders (and general unit compositions) are probably horribly inefficient, and you may not be able to figure out how to make them better, this can speed up that process a lot. Of course as long as you're reasonably determined you can do the same thing by just playing hundreds of games, and in the end, this is what is required to get really good.

3) Try not to cheese (unless it's just for fun)

Yes, you can get from 100 bronze to 500 gold by doing nothing but 2 gate proxy against P, proxy void ray rush against T and 4 gate against Z, but other than learning how to 4 gate well, you won't really get any better (except maybe a little better at microing). Cheesing when you're tired or annoyed is always fun, though! Plus it's super fun when your opponent cries like a girl.

4) Despite what I said in 3, it's important to be good at aggressive 1 base builds like 3 rax or 4 gate

These builds are typically very 1 dimensional (until you get very good), and so it's easier to refine and make these builds very efficient, which will help you learn some basic ways to do that which will help you refine more challenging strategies when you get better. Plus, you're probably not being aggressive and harassing enough, and it's good to learn how effective it can be.

Regarding the GSL finals:

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Not gonna hide what I'm writing cause it's not spoiling anything: the games weren't too bad, but the thing that drove me absolutely insane was the game time to commercial ratio. Kind of reminded me of another event....STICK A FORK IN THOSE BUNS.

I'm on a horse.

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I'm so surprised people didn't like that last game. *spoiler warning* After seeing each player's build, it seemed obvious FoxeR was going to win, but NesTea knew what he had to do--pull an absurd number of Drones off of mining (Was it all of them? I forget.) to try to surround the marines. Do or die. When he chased them halfway home and actually managed to get the surround, I went berserk. What a way to end an action-packed best of 7. There was a long period at the end of that game when FoxeR had clearly lost but didn't surrender, seemingly because he was in shock along with the rest of us. It was full circle from the first game where both players did basically the same thing but FoxeR won--on a map where it should have actually been harder for him.

Okay, so there were no super long macro games. But that's how our game often goes. I think the games did a good job of showing both player's skill. It's not like there were any strange happenings or freak accidents that somehow gave one player the win undeservedly. I, for one, loved the series.

Well, the last game is pretty exciting in isolation. And Foxer's reaction at the end was pretty dramatic. But again, he already did that cheese earlier in the series. It may be a pretty strong cheese, but I wouldn't expect it to work twice.

Probably the fact that it was all taking place at a screw-all time in the morning reduced my enjoyment somewhat. Most of the games all sorta bled together in my mind.

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So, did a Zerg player win the GSL again? Where can I watch the replays?

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GSL Spoiler/ response from the above topic:

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I know nothing.

My units are disgusting little slime-balls. They deserve to die. Preferrably while taking lot's of enemies with them

So I just finished a PvP ladder game. At the start I said my usual "gl hf", and my opponent goes "wow what a coincidence". I wasn't sure what he was talking about since I didn't recognize the name. About 15 seconds later, he says he's Araban from L19! I was so distracted by my delight I accidentally put my first Gateway down at 12 instead of my usual 13. Anyway, the game was a quickie, not very interesting, unfortunately. But I just thought I'd share. He said that's not even his only secret account. How many hundreds did you spend on copies of the game, anyway, Araban, yeesh!

May have been the first L19 ladder encounter . Interesting you mention the 12 instead of 13 gateway, I did it at 14 instead of 13. For those wondering what happened in the game, I overplayed a bit by trying to take a wide-open nat on Delta Quadrant pretty early for a 1-gate FE to 5-gate play. I thought I could get away with it due to our cross-positioning, but alas this was not the case and I lost to what I think was a 3-gate 1-robo play, pretty standard. PvT may be my worst matchup, but PvP truly feels like something I understand the least. If you're up for some practice games BillyBanana, you know two of my accounts now so PM me when I'm on either of those .

Hey, that's pretty cool. Maybe I'll run into someone... bronze... someday. Maybe I already have, and didn't notice!

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Hey Chewie, Just so you know, I play altogether too much, and I'm Daemondym. Hoping to make it into silver soon, but if you ever want a sparring partner, let me know, I'd be thrilled to play with you.

Going to play in a LAN tomorrow, woo!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmes ... _id=163846

Hey, cool. I'm not on all that often, but I'd love to get some games in. I'll add you to my list (Ought to add a lot of people from here), and say hi if I see you on.

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