nobody else has heard of a protein/fat/carb macro ratio?

Hey, chef, I have a bunch of quinoa of varying colors. What should I do with it ?


I'm afraid I don't have access to Paleolithic vs. modern diets--selected pathophysiological implications. by SB Eaton and SB Eaton Which seems to be the crux paper for that movement. Can someone throw me a few interesting, sourced %s regarding paleolithic diets regarding non-obese/old demographics?

Personally, I've tried to substitute honey for (table)sugar wherever possible, following some experiments with rats I didn't actually follow closely.


Edit: NZ Monofloral honeys are pretty exciting, but more expensive than you'd possibly believe.

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I, an to an even greater extent my wife, know a lot about food and diet. And one of the biggest conclusions we have come to over the years is that there is no one diet which fits all. It doesn't matter what diet you take, you can always find some people who do well on it and some who do not. I am familiar with the paleolithic diet and I know I would not do well on it, but clearly you do.

Another example can be taken straight from my own family. We are all vegetarian and I do really well on the diet. In fact, the closer to vegan I eat the healthier I feel. My wife, on the other hand, is vegetarian strictly for ethical reasons (I am only partially so) and she do not do well on such a diet. We both feel she would do better on a meat diet but she cannot bring herself to eat it.

There are all sorts of people in the world and as a result there are all sorts of diets. People who try to convert others to their own favorite, convinced it will be good for them, may actually be doing a disservice. While I think that a vegetarian diet is good for a lot of people and, in my opinion, it is certainly good for the planet, I never try to convert people. I do encourage them to try it though. In the same way, there is nothing wrong with telling people about your diet, but to try to convince them it is right for them is wrong. Let them try it and find out for themselves.

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I absolutely agree with you; I'm sorry if you found my post too preachy, it really was just meant to be informative. Others may do as they wish, of course! But I reserve the right to believe what I believe emphatically.

Secretly, I'm glad most people react with horror to my diet; it keeps the prices on cream and butter down.

(Why do I feel like I'm channeling helel?)

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I didn't think of it as preaching. More like untempered enthusiasm. I was just trying to give a balanced point of view.

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I'll skip the whole diet discussion and stick to my own, which is called "Eat what you like, but don't overdo it"

Anyway, I'm no professional when it comes to food, but I like to cook, so I thought I'd share a recipe I like:

Ingredients:

500g curly kale, chopped (I usually get this from the freezer)
4 tomatoes
500g mashed potatoes
100g cream cheese
100g grated cheese (I usually use Gouda)

Preparation:
- Preheat oven to 180°C
- Cook curly kale until done (from the freezer: until it boils), stir cream cheese through it
- Slice tomatoes
- Put creamy curly kale in an oven dish
- Put a layer of sliced tomatoes on top
- Put a layer mashed potatoes on top
- Sprinkle grated cheese over it all

Put in the oven for about 20 minutes.

Vegetarian and gluten-free, and very easy and quick to make, and it's delicious too

The cheese is rather fat though, so I guess you'd have to replace it with low fat variants (goat's cheese or mozzarella, perhaps?) or leave it out.

Does anyone have suggestions for grilling for vegetarians? We will have no picky eaters (aside from the meat thing) or obscure dietary requirements. We will be using a standard charcoal grill. We like spicy food, but the food does not need to be spicy. Thanks!

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I'll be glad to share my bachelor (bachelor = quick and easy) chili recipe:

brown 1 lb ground beef (you can use cut up steak, ground turkey or some other meat instead)

add one can diced tomatoes (with jalepenos if you like it spicy, mild green chiles if you don't))

add one can pinto beans (you can use the chili beans if you want - they're pinto beans with some chili flavoring) I prefer pinto beans to kidney

add one packet of chili mix - I use the low sodium ones

secret ingredient - one jar of salsa (medium strength for spicy - mild for those with more sensitive palates)

stir it all together, and let it simmer (add water as needed for consistency) then eat it as is, over rice or over pasta (shells are good for this)

Please be warned that you should never ever serve this to anyone from Texas. If you do, you'll hear a half hour lecture about the sacrilege of putting beans in chili.

I'm not at all fancy, cooking-wise, but grilling is fun. Not long ago, I grilled shish kebabs for a group that included a vegetarian, and simply made vegetable-only skewers for her (keeping them separate). Squash, onions, eggplant, mushrooms, that sort of thing. I have also had good luck with zucchini in butter, served with lemon juice, black pepper, and feta cheese on top. When I do shish kebabs, I like to use a sauce made from yogurt, some mint, grated cucumber, and a bit of lemon juice. I could be remembering the ingredients wrong (I don't have the recipe on me), but that's probably close enough to taste right.

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I liked every Weber recipe I ever tried. They have some vegetable recipes on their website:

http://www.weber.com/grillout/Default.aspx?category=7

Cuisine is an enormous aspect of human culture. It is a form of art, and a thing of beauty. If you care about food, do not lightly sacrifice it because someone tells you it is unhealthy.

I don't just mean avoid charlatans, which includes almost everyone talking about nutrition. Even where the advice is good, it's just too often not worth it. The medical case against playing go, using the computer, reading or painting is more substantial and clear cut than almost any nutritional advice.

If you have reason to believe your case is special (extreme obesity, hereditary heart disease, current illness, etc), then things are different. But too many people suffer guilt and boredom because they reflexively assume that what is healthy must be done.

There are often win-win trades--a lot of healthy, natural food is delicious. But I will never give up pork belly, butter, bread, milk and cream, or any other indulgences.

Fwiw, on the specific issue of gall bladder removal: my wife had hers taken out 18 months ago, and has never subsequently had trouble processing fats. I've read of other individuals becoming almost completely fat-intolerant. There is huge individual variation here.

Grilled corn can be amazing.

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daniel, you may be interested in this book (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibals_and_Kings). marvin harris tells his ideas concerning population, food and world history. i did like it.

rant: i consider pseudo stone-age diet with lots of meat produced by modern industrial agriculture and with input from all over the world (soja, liquid fuels ...) decadent. there is no stone-age diet without stone-age population levels,

You can grill almost anything which will not fall apart. We don't grill regularly but we do on occasions. Veggie burgers are alway a simple thing; kebabs with a variety of vegetables; eggplants grill well.

Just make sure that they are cooked separately. I have been to places where people were willing to grill separately for my family but did so on top of a grill where they ha cooked meat! We could not eat them.

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Don't take this as a criticism (I'm genuinely curious), but that makes no sense to me unless you're actually allergic to some compound in meat (is that even possible?). I try to make accommodations for vegetarians and it would never have occurred to me that you would want an entirely separate grill. Can you explain what the issue is?

BTW, I second whoever said "corn".



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There's still lots of meat stuff on the grill after it's been used to cook meat. This isn't some kind of crazy kosher thing where you can't stand to touch any surface that has ever touched meat; anything cooked on a grill recently used for meat is going to have some meatiness to some extent.

I'm not vegetarian but when I'm at parties and cookouts with grills there's generally a separate grill set aside for the vegetarians. I guess I live in a pretty liberal area though.

It's shame that ... more people ...are not aware of the protestant reformation.

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Helel, this is not the first time you have been totally offensive on this forum. I suggest you learn a few basic manners and rules of social interaction before you try to post again.

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I don't eat any form of meat products and I don't want them in contact with my food. It is both a health and an ethical issue. This is the reason I rarely eat food prepared on a grill unless I am very comfortable with its origin.

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Only two posts were made after the edited post, both my me. So I can only assume that you are calling my posts critical. The first was what I had hoped was a reasonable response to a very offensive post (which you did not edit) and the second was a sincere answer to a genuine question. Why is either one critical?

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