I downloaded some Go Seigen games, full name of the archive is goseigen.sh.z
I can extract .z with Winrar, but what do I do with the .sh file? is it a Linux file?.

.sh usually refers to a shell script, quite probably bash. If so, you can open it in notepad to see what's in it.

I don't know why or how a set of games would be in a shell script file though. Where are they from?

Edit: I found what's presumably the same file and downloaded it to have a look. The first few lines of the file explain what it is:



To uncompress yourself it you'd need bash, and probably some other stuff, which you can probably install on windows via cygwin. It seems like a lot of effort to expand one random file though.

It's from here.
ftp://ftp.joyjoy.net/go/games/

I have no idea what to do now. Can I convert it to something?.

I added an edit with some more information. It's literally a program containing all the text of the games etc., and all the program does is write that text to some files. However, because of this unusual 'archive' format, it isn't something you can easily convert to a different type, or extract with a normal windows tool.

Actually, I think the script is so simple that you could just open it with notepad (or a non-rubbish editor if you have one) and copy the sgfs wherever you like. Alternatively you could in principle install bash as I mentioned above, but that really is an in principle rather than something you probably want to bother doing.

It's just a maze of texts with no paragraph breaks. How do I know what to copy? (there are about 8 games in this file I think).

I read the readme on that server and it looks like these files are the "Go on go" book, in split-file format. You can download it as a book (legally, this is not an illegal copy of something as far as I know) from here: http://www.5z.com/tucsongo/book/

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That book is so hard to read due to the author using E4, A19 etc. instead of A,B,C like other books. Do you have any place for Go Seigen kifus? Just kifu, no commentaries is fine.

See here: http://gobase.org/games/cn/masters/goseigen/

And indeed, the book is not great, but it's auto-created from these kifus you wanted to download, so they will probably be quite alike :/

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I have no money any free download? I just wanna see a few games of Go Seigen.

wow thanks. When I searched for him on gokifu there were only 3 or 4 games. Weird.

What does the result "W+J" means?

Don’t know whether I have missed something, but if it’s Go Seigen’s book “Go on Go: The Analyzed Games of Go Seigen” that anybody of you would want to have you can find it here for free: http://www.usgo.org/files/pdf/go-seigen-book.pdf

Greetings, Tom

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Same book, equally legal. My link IIRC is the original place it's been hosted, the USGo mirrors it.

Oh, and when I answered with a gobase link I intendes to send a gokifu one, did it too fast without thinking too much

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Ooh, thanks for this link. That's a very clever, and very old, archive method.



Patrick Bridges' site has a more modern zip and tar archives of the same original source files.

But the games are very old MTG format. They are very close to SGF format, but not exact.

There are several programs that will convert them. I used GOWrite on the Mac to open and re-save as SGF files. Its quite helpful to have the commented files with proper variation trees to go along with reading the book. (Several years ago, I tried unsuccessfully to convert them by hand, but kept getting hung up on the proper order of the AE property)

Its too bad his first version of the book isn't easily available as a PDF, because the other one is -- how can I say this nicely -- crap. Some of its diagrams are missing moves and stones, etc. But it may be because the tools he used expected SGF files, when what he had were MTG files (again, close, but no cigar).

His first version, which he only provides postscript and no PDF, is much, much better (but not completely error free either). Unfortunately, he's right, that the resulting PDF is over 10 times larger.

Both cases, very brilliant, and much appreciated work. Kudos to Patrick for his efforts here.

Of course, these days, an 18meg file is nothing.

I tried to make the other PDF file available on the USGO site, but with the reorg, and losing my access, that effort appears to have been lost.

The Analyzed Games of Go Seigen
commented games (SGF)
PDF book (first version)

I can't thank you enough. This is awesome.

The count on the board is Jigo (tie), but looks like they gave the win to white. Don't know why. That's a job for historians.