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Do You Know Go? kid's pamphlet NOW UPDATED for 2014
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Author:  Inkwolf [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Do You Know Go? kid's pamphlet NOW UPDATED for 2014
The Do You Know Go pamphlet is updated!

You can download the high-res version in a zip file here. (Let me know if the link doesn't work, please!)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Uo0v ... sp=sharing

There is also a textless version for non-English speakers, if you want to translate it.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8Uo0vL ... sp=sharing

2014 Update: 321Go.org and online-go.com added. Dead go servers removed: Kaya, Yahoo, and Facebook.
Author:  rpchuang [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do You Know Go? kid's pamphlet
Inkwolf wrote:
The Do You Know Go pamphlet is finished!

You can download the high-res version in a zip file here. (Let me know if the link doesn't work, please!)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8Uo0vL ... sp=sharing

There is also a textless version for non-English speakers, if you want to translate it.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8Uo0vL ... sp=sharing


Very Nice!
Author:  xed_over [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:34 pm ]
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Very nice indeed. Good Job!
Author:  logan [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:37 pm ]
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Wonderful, thanks!!!
Author:  Inkwolf [ Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:32 am ]
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Thanks! And by the way--this pamphlet may be reproduced and distributed freely, and has a blank spot on the back page for you to add local club or event information, so feel free to make any use of it you like.

I expect it will be added to Tigersmouth.org downloads in time.
Author:  Inkwolf [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:39 pm ]
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Updated--The AGA entry on the links page has been changed to be more accurate. Thanks, Shimari for the info!

(There's a different download link now, in case you shared it...)
Author:  Inkwolf [ Mon May 19, 2014 9:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Do You Know Go? kid's pamphlet
Time to see if the links page needs an update!

I think I heard that the Kaya server is no longer working (or not accepting new players or something) is that right?

Here's what I have on the links page:

www.tigersmouth.org
playgo.to/index.html
www.usgo.org
www.agfgo.org
GoGameGuru.com
www.goproblems.com
gochild2009.appspot.com
animenewsnetwork.com/video./5403 (Hikaru No Go anime online)
www.lifein19x19.com
senseis.xmp.net

gokgs.com
www.pandanet-igs.com
www.tygembaduk.com
kaya.gs

Anyone know of any links that ought to be removed, or new sites that ought to be added to a kids' Go list?
Author:  Bonobo [ Mon May 19, 2014 11:51 am ]
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Inkwolf wrote:
[..]

I think I heard that the Kaya server is no longer working (or not accepting new players or something) is that right?
Kaya is dead and has decayed already, and I recommend adding the beautiful and friendly ☯GS instead — OGS, Online Go Server, at http://www.online-go.com

OGS has been a well-visited correspondence Go server for many years, and was merged with the new and modern Go server nova.gs on October 19, 2013 (see http://online-go.com/docs/changelog).
Some facts:
  • ☯GS is built on HTML5 which means it doesn’t require JAVA and runs in any contemporary browser,
  • it offers both live and correspondence games (and the latter turn into live games when both players are playing at the same time),
  • it has many nice features,
  • in addition to the other traditional timing methods it offers Fischer timing,
  • its user base is growing slowly but steadily (building up on the large OGS user base from times before the merger),
  • and the developers anoek and matburt are responsive and dedicated.

And it is free, of course. There are many young folks there, and many beginners (but also quite a few Dan players, up to 5d or 6d, IIRC.

This has become the server of my choice and which I recommend to everybody :-) and yes, there are quite a few people critical of ☯GS, but that seems mainly due to the fact that there are not as many players there as on KGS, IGS, Tygem, etc. I can only invite people to come and look for themselves, and to find out about the features before criticizing, and then to add wishes to the wish list as well as to participate in the beta test for version 4 and submit bug reports.


Cordial greetings, Tom

p.s.: Up for a really slow correspondence game w/ me? :-) (“slow” as in weeks or months time, the link in my signature leads to my ☯GS profile)
Author:  Inkwolf [ Mon May 19, 2014 12:59 pm ]
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Thanks, I will have to check it out...both for myself and the pamphlet. (I am still running Os 10.6.8, so can't update to Java 7, which seems to make KGS impossible to access any more.)
Author:  Abyssinica [ Mon May 19, 2014 6:35 pm ]
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Bonobo wrote:

p.s.: Up for a really slow correspondence game w/ me? :-) (“slow” as in weeks or months time, the link in my signature leads to my ☯GS profile)



You declined my challenge. Maybe you thought I really was a 6d or something.
Author:  leichtloeslich [ Mon May 19, 2014 7:44 pm ]
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Bonobo wrote:
it offers both live and correspondence games (and the latter turn into live games when both players are playing at the same time)

Every time I read this, I die a little inside.

Let me spell it out for you:
the difference between a live and a correspondence game is that when you get into a complicated semeai/life&death situation, you have about 20 seconds flat to make your best judgement and play a move in a live game, while in a correspondence game you usually have about 20 days.

It's the time controls that matter, not how fast the board updates.

[/rant]
Author:  dfunkt [ Mon May 19, 2014 7:47 pm ]
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leichtloeslich wrote:
Bonobo wrote:
it offers both live and correspondence games (and the latter turn into live games when both players are playing at the same time)

Every time I read this, I die a little inside.

Let me spell it out for you:
the difference between a live and a correspondence game is that when you get into a complicated semeai/life&death situation, you have about 20 seconds flat to make your best judgement and play a move in a live game, while in a correspondence game you usually have about 20 days.

It's the time controls that matter, not how fast the board updates.

[/rant]

Truly. I played correspondence go for 6 months and it did nothing to improve my real time games.
Author:  Bonobo [ Tue May 20, 2014 3:51 am ]
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Abyssinica wrote:
Bonobo wrote:
p.s.: Up for a really slow correspondence game w/ me? :-) (“slow” as in weeks or months time, the link in my signature leads to my ☯GS profile)
You declined my challenge. Maybe you thought I really was a 6d or something.
Didn’t you read my PM? It’s about lack of time … and sometimes I can’t play for a few days. Also, I wanted to finish my other games first. And I must admit that tiny offer actually was directed at InkWolf personally, guess I should’ve made that clear :-) But … I’ll create a challenge that fits my time schedule, OK?

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leichtloeslich wrote:
Bonobo wrote:
it offers both live and correspondence games (and the latter turn into live games when both players are playing at the same time)
Every time I read this, I die a little inside.
Must be a hard life ;-) “Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional”, so … perhaps you’re a little bit too soluble, especially among so many aggressive solvents :-D

Quote:
Let me spell it out for you:
whoa whoa whoa :-D

Quote:
the difference between a live and a correspondence game is that when you get into a complicated semeai/life&death situation, you have about 20 seconds flat to make your best judgement and play a move in a live game, while in a correspondence game you usually have about 20 days.

It's the time controls that matter, not how fast the board updates.[/rant]
Feeling better now? :-D Anyway, “live game” does not necessarily mean time restrictions like in tournament games.

But you are right, I did not state it precisely, and in order to keep you among the living for some more time, I’ll try again:

When both players in a correspondence games are present in the game, it “feels” like a live game since 1) the board is updated immediately, 2) both players can “see” each other, 3) there is live chat, etc.

Is this somewhat better?

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dfunkt wrote:
leichtloeslich wrote:
[..]

It's the time controls that matter, not how fast the board updates.

[/rant]
Truly. I played correspondence go for 6 months and it did nothing to improve my real time games.
Uhm, was there any statement about improval in leichtlöslich’s comment that I missed? I didn't allege (at least not here :cool: ) that correspondence Go (necessarily) improves one’s game play.

BUT it may depend on how thoroughly one uses the analysis function, and whether one is able to overcome one’s blind spots … <shrug> … I don’t know. But since you mention this, I think that YES, playing through many variations with varying different first moves has improved my play. At least it feels so in the few IRL games I play.


Herzlichen Gruß, Tom
Author:  goTony [ Wed May 28, 2014 11:23 pm ]
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Great thanks for sharing! Might you have a PDF version for sharing?
Author:  Inkwolf [ Thu May 29, 2014 4:53 am ]
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goTony wrote:
Great thanks for sharing! Might you have a PDF version for sharing?


I don't yet, but thanks for the suggestion. When I get the update done, I will see if I can manage a PDF, For now, you ought to be able to open it in any graphics program and add your own text.
Author:  goTony [ Thu May 29, 2014 10:50 am ]
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Inkwolf wrote:
goTony wrote:
Great thanks for sharing! Might you have a PDF version for sharing?


I don't yet, but thanks for the suggestion. When I get the update done, I will see if I can manage a PDF, For now, you ought to be able to open it in any graphics program and add your own text.



Sounds good thanks for your efforts promoting GO!
Author:  rosseforp [ Thu May 29, 2014 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do You Know Go? kid's pamphlet
Inkwolf wrote:
Time to see if the links page needs an update!

I think I heard that the Kaya server is no longer working (or not accepting new players or something) is that right?

Here's what I have on the links page:

http://www.tigersmouth.org
playgo.to/index.html
http://www.usgo.org
http://www.agfgo.org
GoGameGuru.com
http://www.goproblems.com
gochild2009.appspot.com
animenewsnetwork.com/video./5403 (Hikaru No Go anime online)
http://www.lifein19x19.com
senseis.xmp.net

gokgs.com
http://www.pandanet-igs.com
http://www.tygembaduk.com
kaya.gs

Anyone know of any links that ought to be removed, or new sites that ought to be added to a kids' Go list?


www.321go.org is again alive after the breakdown in november 2012
Author:  Inkwolf [ Thu May 29, 2014 3:41 pm ]
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rosseforp wrote:

http://www.321go.org is again alive after the breakdown in november 2012


That's good to know. I might poke around for a look at that site.

EDIT: Oh, I see there are several language choices! Yeah, I may add that one. :)
Author:  Bonobo [ Thu May 29, 2014 5:24 pm ]
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rosseforp wrote:
http://www.321go.org is again alive after the breakdown in november 2012
Wow, that’s real nice news, I’d feared it would never be online again. Thank you, still got 427 or so to solve :-)

<edit>
just did a quick search here and noticed was reminded of the fact that it had been mentioned here before that 321go was up again, and that then I still had not been able to connect to it.
</edit>

Greetings, Tom
Author:  goTony [ Thu May 29, 2014 11:23 pm ]
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rosseforp wrote:
Inkwolf wrote:
Time to see if the links page needs an update!

I think I heard that the Kaya server is no longer working (or not accepting new players or something) is that right?

Here's what I have on the links page:

http://www.tigersmouth.org
playgo.to/index.html
http://www.usgo.org
http://www.agfgo.org
GoGameGuru.com
http://www.goproblems.com
gochild2009.appspot.com
animenewsnetwork.com/video./5403 (Hikaru No Go anime online)
http://www.lifein19x19.com
senseis.xmp.net

gokgs.com
http://www.pandanet-igs.com
http://www.tygembaduk.com
kaya.gs

Anyone know of any links that ought to be removed, or new sites that ought to be added to a kids' Go list?


http://www.321go.org is again alive after the breakdown in november 2012


I would definitely include the Interactive Way to GO. It is a great step by step way to learn.

http://playgo.to/iwtg/en/

and in Spanish

http://www.thinkchile.com/playgo/
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