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Post #1 Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:32 am 
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5/22 Opening ceremony and pairing selection
5/23 1st round (8 players out of 24 players will advance to 2nd round.)
5/25 2nd round (8 players from 1st round and 8 seeded players)
5/27 3rd round (8 players)

Players for 1st round:

Korea: Park Junghwan, Won Seongjin, Kim Jiseok
China: Kong Jie, Chen Yaoe, Qiu Jun, Tan Xiao, Xie He, Liu Xing, Fan Tingyu
Taiwan: Wang Wienjun(?)
Japan: Hane Naoki, Taao Shinji, Yuki Satoshi
Europe: Catalin Taranu
America: Yamg Huiran(?)

Seeded(2nd round)

Korea: Choi Chulhan, Lee Changho, Lee Sedol
China: Gu Li, Piao Wenyao, Jiang Weijie
Japan: Cho Chihoon, Cho U

Rule:Ing rule

Prize:
Winner $400,000(US)
2nd place: $100,000
3rd and 4th: $25,000
5th-8th: $15,000
9th-16th: $5,000
17th-24th: $2,000

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Post #2 Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:10 am 
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No Iyama Yuta :sad: . But all the other big names there. Will be interesting!

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Post #3 Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:48 pm 
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I'll be rooting for Yuki Satoshi since Iyama Yuta isn't in it.

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Post #4 Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:07 am 
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From China I root for Tan Xiao. My favorite young pro from china, I like his style!

From Japan I root for Cho Chikun. (I assume that's the same player as 'chihoon' if not I root for Yuki Satoshi ofc and Takao Shinji aswell. They're both Disciples of Fujisawa 9d so I hope they can make him proud)

From Korea I root for Lee Chango. I hope he can get back in shape and get good results again.

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Post #5 Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:42 pm 
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Image

Chihoon(Chikun) and Sedol are enjoying each other's company.

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Post #6 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:03 am 
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trout wrote:
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Chihoon(Chikun) and Sedol are enjoying each other's company.

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That's nice to see.

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Post #7 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:15 am 
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The first round pairing;

5/23
Kim Jiseok vs Qiu Jun
Chen Yaoe vs Won Seongjin
Liu Xing vs Yuki Satoshi
Fan Tingyu vs Taao Shinji
Yamg Huiran vs Park Junghwan
Xie He vs Catalin Taranu
Tan Xiao vs Wang Wienjun
Kong Jie vs Hane Naoki

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Post #8 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:57 pm 
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trout wrote:
The first round pairing;

5/23
Kim Jiseok vs Qiu Jun
Chen Yaoe vs Won Seongjin
Liu Xing vs Yuki Satoshi
Fan Tingyu vs Taao Shinji
Yamg Huiran vs Park Junghwan
Xie He vs Catalin Taranu
Tan Xiao vs Wang Wienjun
Kong Jie vs Hane Naoki


Tough match-up for Catalin to start, yikes!

That Kim vs Qiu pairing is the highlight of this round, in my opinion. Will be excited to review the kifu.

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Post #9 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:37 am 
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Park Junghwan defeated Yamg Huiran by 9.
Tan Xiao defeated Wang Wienjun by resign.
Xie He defeated Catalin Taranu by resign.
Liu Xing defeated Yuki Satoshi by resign.
Qiu Jun defeated Kim Jiseok by 1.
Won Seongjin defeated Chen Yaoye by resign.
Fan Tingyu defeated Takao Shinji 3.
Kong Jie defeated Hane Naoki by 2.


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Post #10 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:45 am 
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trout wrote:
Park Junghwan defeated Yamg Huiran by 9.
Tan Xiao defeated Wang Wienjun by resign.
Xie He defeated Catalin Taranu by resign.
Liu Xing defeated Yuki Satoshi by resign.


The following pairs are still playing.

Kim Jiseok vs Qiu Jun
Chen Yaoe vs Won Seongjin
Fan Tingyu vs Taao Shinji
Kong Jie vs Hane Naoki


Trout, is there a reason you consistently write Chen Yaoe instead of Chen Yaoye?

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Post #11 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 2:54 am 
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And Taao Shinji for Takao?

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Post #12 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:24 am 
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Pairings for 2nd round(5/25):

Choi Chulhan vs Tam Xiao
Lee Sedol vs Fan Tingyu
Gu Li vs Won Seongjin
Jiang Weijie vs Xie He
Park Junghwan vs Piao Wenyao
Cho Chihoon vs Liu Xing
Cho U vs Qiu Jun
Lee Changho vs Kong Jie


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Post #13 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:07 am 
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Trout. Thanks for always getting these up so quickly. I've become dependent on checking your posts for the latest news on tournaments.

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Post #14 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:28 am 
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Reading up on the tourney I saw they are following the Ing rules. http://senseis.xmp.net/?IngRules

They include:

Area scoring
Ing counting, filling in the board with 180 stones for each player
Multiple-stone suicide is allowed
Komi is 8 in even games; Black wins ties in even games
Ing Ko Rule applies
Free handicap stone placement; White wins ties
Additional timing rules (one variation includes losing points for going over the allotted basic time)

Anyone here played them before? How was it?

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Post #15 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:31 am 
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As far as I know only the timing rules/losing points have had an interesting effect. Does anyone know if other aspects of the rules have been different from Chinese rules in these tournaments?

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Post #16 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:58 am 
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Ing cup time;

Each player gets 3 hours 30 minutes and no byomi.
W gets 8 points. And when a time expires, player gets 35 minutes extention up to 3 times and each extention penalize 2 points. When 3 extention is over, player losees by time.

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Post #17 Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:40 am 
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2nd round;
Xie He defeated Jiang Weijie by resign.
Cho Chihoon defeated Liu Xing by resign.
Tan Xiao defeated Choi Chulhan by 4.5.
Cho U defeated Qiu Jun by 4.5.
Park Junghwan defeated Piao Wenyao by resign.
Lee Changho defeated Kong Jie by 0.5.
Fan Tingyu defeated Lee Sedol by resign.
Gu Li defeated Won Seongjin by 2.5.

0.5 or 4.5 - copying result from oro. Probably it is 1 or 5 points. When points is tie under Ing rule, b wins.



3rd round pairing(5/27)

Tan Xiao vs Fan Tingyu
Gu Li vs Xie He
Park Junghwan vs Cho Chihoon
Cho U vs Lee Changho


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Post #18 Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:16 am 
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If the komi is 8 points, how did two games end with scores of +4.5?

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Post #19 Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:31 am 
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This is turning out to be quite the awesome event!!!

All of the three players I rooted for are off to a good start with wins! I'm especially happy that Lee Changho beat Kong Jie. I'm so happy to see him back in action. The game felt very like his distinctive style of play and I'm happy to see it once again. It's also great to see Cho Chikun kicking some arse internationally. Strangely, Cho U is playing for Taiwan isn't he?

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Post #20 Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:32 am 
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hi, for TMark: see Xaos above, "Komi is 8 points, Black wins even games." That is, in effect, the Komi is 7.5 points. You know, Ing has to be different.

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