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Post #1 Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:22 pm 
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The new GoPanda 2 browser client is very pretty:
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They are still working on adding features to match the older IGS clients.
- The board, stones, bowls, and lids for captured stones are BEAUTIFUL. :clap: :bow:

The following options are missing, not yet implemented?
- Option to display the board full screen
- Option to enable/disable the co-ordinates
- Keyboard options to Forward 1 move (right arrow), back 1 move (left arrow), etc.
- Option to display ranks and info of players, etc.

Benjamin Teuber, Erik Ouchterlony and Rasmus Buchmann -- Congrats and thank you! :mrgreen: :bow:


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Post #2 Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:23 pm 
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Wow, looks fantastic.

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Post #3 Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:41 pm 
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I really don't like it compared to gopanda 1. I hope they do keep it up to date.

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Benjamin Teuber, Erik Ouchterlony and Rasmus Buchmann,
Here's a very crude MS-Paint mock-up to move the Black stones and lid to the lower left, to make room and prepare for full-screen mode:
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Post #5 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:49 am 
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That looks really nice! Good work! :)

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Post #6 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:04 am 
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I'll use it when you don't need Java Web Start to run it -- when it is a true browser client.

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Post #7 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:13 am 
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I second what mw42 says. It does look great but it feels so clunky to run a local HTTP server that connects to a remote server and then open the local HTTP server's content in a browser. It makes me cringe.

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Post #8 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:33 am 
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EdLee: what happened to black's (cli) center group in that game? I can only see a way to live with ko... although black will almost certainly win it.

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Post #9 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:32 am 
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Anyone else think that the inside of the lower left lid looks convex instead of concave? It's as if the light is coming at each lid from a different source. I think it would look better if the lid from the top left were used for both.

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Post #10 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:07 am 
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daal wrote:
Anyone else think that the inside of the lower left lid looks convex instead of concave? It's as if the light is coming at each lid from a different source. I think it would look better if the lid from the top left were used for both.

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Charlie, I was looking at pretty much everything BUT the games themselves. :)

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Post #12 Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:23 am 
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I like the interface, but I haven't been able to see how to save a game?

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Post #13 Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:28 am 
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I can't seem to logon as a guest (Firefox 17.0.1 on Windows 7). Anyone else have this problem?

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Post #14 Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:16 am 
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ez4u wrote:
I can't seem to logon as a guest (Firefox 17.0.1 on Windows 7). Anyone else have this problem?

Pandanet english client prevents Japanese users to log in, cuz it is a payed service in Japan.

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Post #15 Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:06 am 
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lovelove wrote:
ez4u wrote:
I can't seem to logon as a guest (Firefox 17.0.1 on Windows 7). Anyone else have this problem?

Pandanet english client prevents Japanese users to log in, cuz it is a payed service in Japan.

Not quite true. I can't register for a free account because they want me to pay (hence my departure from IGS back around 2000 when they started checking IP addresses). :rambo:

However, I can log in as a guest and observe games from any existing client, including straight off the Pandanet page for the old GoPanda (confirmed still true and I am observing a game as I write this). However, with GoPanda 2 instead of seeing the client there is a little login widget that pops up on the web page that requires both a username and password. The widget rejects an empty password without it ever going to the server as far as I can tell.

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Post #16 Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:04 pm 
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Hi everyone, Rasmus here, one of the developers :)

@EdLee: Thanks for making the topic, I'll try to check back here frequently to answer questions and see what all of you have to say about it. We are working on fullscreen mode, your design actually looks similar to what we had in mind. :salute:

@oren: What don't you like about GoPanda2? There won't be any features added or any other major updates to GoPanda1 in the near future, I am afraid. So you better help us fix the new one!

@mw42, Charlie: I understand the sentiment. Believe me, its not the only awkward solution in the current setup :oops: We are definitely shooting for a web-only client, although there probably will be an installable version too, to allow for offline game editing and the likes.

@daal: Interesting, never noticed that. I took the pictures myself, so I can assure you it's the same light source. Will try if replacing the bowl looks better, but as you can imagine its not really at the top of the priorities list.

@bleep: Its also on the todo list. In the meantime, you can use net social plaza to download your games: http://my.pandanet.co.jp/index-e.htm . Ask me, if you need help navigating it. :tmbup:

@ez4u: Guest logins are not supported atm, because a whole bunch of stuff works differently or not at all, and we want people to make an account anyway. When the web only client works, we might offer an option to observe games from the website directly without registering.

So, if you have questions about the client you can either post them here or mail to us at gopanda2@pandanet-igs.com. We appreciate every feature request, bug report and generally all feedback!
Thanks for trying it, we'll work on making it a really cool client to use.


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Post #17 Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:27 pm 
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I think my main issue is that GoPanda original is easy to use and fairly quick. GoPanda 2 is much slower. Can I even open multiple games on GoPanda 2?

I've used IGS for a fairly long time with a bunch of different clients and this is the first that doesn't leave me a console.

I can open multiple games in tabs, but I don't see how I can watch both at the same time.

Graphically, I would prefer the top bar go away to make more room, no bowls, and a simpler looking board.

I've used Panda Egg client a bunch, and I like some parts of it. I prefer the original GoPanda to the new one. It just looks a bit cleaner to me.

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oren wrote:
Graphically...no bowls, and a simpler looking board.
I prefer the original GoPanda to the new one. It just looks a bit cleaner to me.
I didn't see the original GoPanda (could someone post some screenshots of it?),
but it's difficult to imagine a design that's cleaner and more beautiful than the current GoPanda 2.

I think the current board, stones, bowls, and lids are absolutely BEAUTIFUL --
but, the bowls and lids can be enabled or disabled with a simple option,
so people who don't like them can hide them as an option.

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Post #19 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:03 am 
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@bleep: Its also on the todo list. In the meantime, you can use net social plaza to download your games: http://my.pandanet.co.jp/index-e.htm . Ask me, if you need help navigating it. :tmbup:
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Great, thanks. Just tried it, and no problems.

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Post #20 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:39 pm 
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I got to meet Rasmus and Erik while in Japan a bit over a month ago. They really are cool dudes and want to make everything way better. This was of course where I figured out that my list of wants for GoPanda2 was very similar to their list.

Note: as a employee of Pandanet I heartily hope everyone enjoys and continues to play on pandanet :tmbup:

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