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Post #1 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:26 pm 
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hello, just out of curiosity, i was wondering how many Go players know lingua latina, and have a decent level like to have conversations or commenting a Go game?

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Post #2 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:30 pm 
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hello, just out of curiosity, i was wondering how many Go players know lingua latina, and have a decent level like to have conversations or commenting a Go game?


I know only one person with such good skill in latin. He may speak in classic greek too :)

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Post #3 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:12 pm 
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There is a Finnish radiostation that broadcasts the daily news in Latin. ICYAI.

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Post #4 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:14 pm 
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Post #5 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:37 pm 
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In Barnes and Noble, I found a copy of The Hobbit translated into Latin. It kind of amazed me that anyone would publish it. I can't imagine more than a few thousand selling. Talk about a niche market.


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Post #6 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:11 pm 
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Post #7 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:17 pm 
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DJLLAP wrote:
In Barnes and Noble, I found a copy of The Hobbit translated into Latin. It kind of amazed me that anyone would publish it. I can't imagine more than a few thousand selling. Talk about a niche market.


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Post #8 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:34 pm 
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Bill Spight wrote:
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In Barnes and Noble, I found a copy of The Hobbit translated into Latin. It kind of amazed me that anyone would publish it. I can't imagine more than a few thousand selling. Talk about a niche market.


Winnie Ille Pu :)

Go check out the Amazon "Foreign Language" bestsellers and see exactly how "niche" this market is. There are many, many more Latinists than go players, for better or for worse.

(I myself own qvomodo invidvlosvs nomine grinchvs christi natalem abrogaverit.)

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Post #9 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:14 am 
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There is a Finnish radiostation that broadcasts the daily news in Latin. ICYAI.

The station is YLE Radio 1, and the "Nuntii latini" is broadcasted every Friday (weekly, not daily) 18:15-18:20 (EET). The webpage of the program is at http://yle.fi/radio1/tiede/nuntii_latini/

You can listen to the broadcasts by clicking the red "Kuuntele" links, although I'm not sure if they work outside Finland. Below that there are also "Lataa mp3" = download MP3 and "Tilaa podcast" = Order podcast links.

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Post #10 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:16 am 
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fengitreon wrote:
i was wondering how many Go players know linguam latinam

tut tut


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Post #11 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:25 am 
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Perhaps easier to ask whether there are Go players in the Vatican? :-D

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I wonder, though, whether that would get the “nihil obstat”, considering the close connection to Buddhism.

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Post #12 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:29 am 
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Post #13 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:00 pm 
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*clicks the subtitles button*
*nothing appears*

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Post #14 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:36 am 
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I was poking around to see if the 16th c. jesuits reported back on Go. Sadly, it seems Ricci wrote his travelogues in Italian.

Fortunately, his editor decided they should be published in Latin anyway.

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GRAVISSIMVM inter eos ludi genus est huiusmodi. In alueo trecentarum cellularum plures, ducentis calculis colludunt, e quibus alij candidi sunt, alij atri. His calculis alter alterius calculos procurat in medium alueum relegare, vt reliquis deinde cellulis dominentur: ad extremum qui plures in alueo cellulas sibi subiecit, victor appellatur. Hunc ludum auidissime arripiunt Magistratus, & saepe maximam diei partem ludendo consumunt; nam inter ludendi peritos, horam integram ludus vnus tenet. Qui huius ludi peritus est, tamersi alia nullare insignis fuerit, ab omnibus colitur, & euocatur. Imo nonnulli etiam eos solitis sibiritibus magistros legunt, vt abiis accurate huius ludi rationem ediscant.


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Post #15 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:50 am 
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I was poking around to see if the 16th c. jesuits reported back on Go. Sadly, it seems Ricci wrote his travelogues in Italian.


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Post #16 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:13 am 
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One older go player told me a story. He was at some (probably scientific) congress and they had an excursion. In the bus he was talking in Finnish with two other Finns. An American person said that they should use a more civilized language. They immediately switched to Latin.


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Post #17 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:47 am 
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I believe that a Go player in the UK (Charles Leedham-Green) is in the process of translating Principia Mathematica into English. (He's working on the Newton one rather than the Russell one.)

Charles is a first rate mathematician. He takes the view that earlier translations have been done by Latin experts rather than mathematicians, and so the existing translations miss a lot Newton's truly ingenious ideas.

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Post #18 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:07 am 
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Whereas a mathematician may miss some of the subtly of the Latin :grin: sounds like a nice retirement project though.

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Post #19 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:52 am 
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I believe that a Go player in the UK (Charles Leedham-Green) is in the process of translating Principia Mathematica into English. (He's working on the Newton one rather than the Russell one.)

Charles is a first rate mathematician. He takes the view that earlier translations have been done by Latin experts rather than mathematicians, and so the existing translations miss a lot Newton's truly ingenious ideas.
That's quite interesting. I think what you want is someone who also does a lot of work with the history and philosophy of math, because of the danger of anachronism. But then again, I doubt he'd take up that project if he wasn't interested in those things.

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Post #20 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:02 pm 
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I believe the "Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica" are at least as important to physics. The mathematical importance lies mainly in the development of modern calculus. The priority of which he shares with Leibniz. The latter though had a better mathematical understanding and notation of limits and derivatifs. Newton, mathematically, is mainly interesting in how he applies the modern calculus to ( celestial ) mechanics and other physics.

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