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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #61 Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:16 pm 
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OGS: magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . W O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

very complicated fight...
my assessment of two black stone: It has aji of escaping but outcome is not that primising so i decided to fight as is.
this fight might put me in a comfortable position.

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #62 Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:22 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . B X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Again, the only move. This can't be bad for me: he is pushing the cart before the horse.

I am looking forward to getting N7 rolling.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #63 Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:18 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . W O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i am very curious what he will play next.
now my top influence is growing fruits and soon will be riped to pick.
only worry i have is that darn two stone... i think i can manage to stabalize my groups and not give him too much points

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #64 Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:53 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . B X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I would like to hane, but the counter hane hurts me more than the hane hurts him:

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[go]$$Bcm1 A and b are miai
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . 2 X X 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . b X a , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So we have to go at least one more.

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #65 Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:45 am 
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N6
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . W . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #66 Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:24 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I want to make sure that my lower right group has center access, even if it means weakening the corner by allowing him P5. I do not want something like this:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . 2 X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #67 Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:04 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . W X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #68 Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:37 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



M13 keeps the pressure on his 11th rank stones. I could turn at L11, but he plays M13 himself, and everything is connected.

If he ignores my hane, the atari at 1 is painful. So I think that he must extend at 2 immediately.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X 3 1 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . 2 O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


He can push the cart one more time with L12, but then my K10 starts to eliminate whatever influence his N9-N6 stones have.
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Post #69 Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:34 pm 
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L12
can not answer that.

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Post #70 Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:23 pm 
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MHO is apparently on a cell phone, so I'll post his move for him.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . W O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . B X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Riding in the cart works for me.

I have to go this last stone. If I permit a hane:


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . 1 X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . 3 . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 2 4 O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 5 . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...I'm too close to hih N6/N9 wall. But if he tries it after one more:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . W O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . 1 B X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . 3 , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


...I can run.

And that extra tempo that I gain from letting him hane may be enough to totally trash his upper side.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ . . . . . . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . a X O X . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . O b O O O . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . B . x . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$--------------------------------[/go]
Joaz Banbeck wrote:
...even if it means weakening the corner by allowing him P5.
It's strange that Joaz thought:
(1) W would reply to :bc: with P5=(x); and
(2) W(x) would weaken B's corner.

For (2), the presence of all the local W stones has already weakened B's corner;
the following :w1:- :b2: exchange is a big thank-you for B as it Strengthens B's corner,
the exact opposite of what Joaz thought :w1: would do:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ . . . . . . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . B . 1 . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . X 2 X . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$--------------------------------[/go]
So for (1), W had only 2 choices: (a) or (b);
(b) is on the inside (less useful), (a) is on the outside (more useful), so MW played (a).
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Offline Uberdude
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Post #73 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:12 am 
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@Ed, maybe Joaz was planning to tenuki p5 so that he could take sente as in the game, in which case his corner is severely weakened. W did not only have the 2 choices you mentioned, there is also o5 which captures the 2 stones and creates a huge followup of n4 atari; that is the move I would play as black either has to take gote to defend and W can take sente in the centre fight, or if black tenukis white can trash the corner later.
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Uberdude,
Yes, about :w1:=o5, what do you think about the following local result -- or, would you rather reply to :w1: at (c) ?
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[go]$$Wc
$$ . . . . . . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . d a X O X . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . O b O O O . . |
$$ . . . . . . . c B 1 . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . 2 X . X . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$--------------------------------[/go]
Of course, both :w1: and W(b) also allow B the peep (d) later; W(a) doesn't.
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Post #75 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:34 am 
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Ed,
Yes, I would solid connect. Locally black is happy to make a solid shape, but W getting sente for the centre is so huge I think it is worth the small local loss of this makeshift defence here. As you say MW's solid gote defence removes the (d) peep so he has a stronger shape to the outside and can thus jump to the k7 area more solidly.
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Post #76 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:07 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . W O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
it is getting complicated all over...will resolve one by one...and hope i can multi task.

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Post #77 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:41 pm 
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This is getting complicated. I'll have to think a bit. It may be a few days.

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Post #78 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:37 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . B . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't want to become heavy. This stays light and flexible, threatening to invade deep into his territory by extending northward, or start a capturing race by extending eastward.
Also, I'm taking the one point that he wants to prevent both.

And...there are getas looming.

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Post #79 Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:46 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X W X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #80 Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:19 am 
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I didn't understand Joaz's last move. MW's response seems obvious and painful to black. Was black trying too hard to use those stones too early?

Wasn't it time for a big move, perhaps something like E3?

What am I missing?
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