TheUnusedname wrote:How do you mean low?
stone is low, and as SoDesuNe pointed out, that whole group is a bit cramped and inefficient anyway. picked the smallest of the three.
EdLee wrote:Do you mean you were just trying to take the two B stones at E7 and F6 ?Unusedname wrote:Well to me J8 looks like I'm still trying to catch the whole group which doesn't look possible anymore. So I just take what I can get.
EdLee wrote:TheUnusedname wrote:
Another (even easier) way to look at it: just look at the sizes -- it's still early in the opening --
Of the top, left, and bottom, your
Unusedname wrote:You say a is overconcentrated, but to me it looks like a lot of territory with few stones.
For beginners.Unusedname wrote:this one too is strange to me, I was sure you should always extend from thickness.
. SoDesuNe wrote:Unusedname wrote:You say a is overconcentrated, but to me it looks like a lot of territory with few stones.
Let's just say the shaded area is your territory. I count 28 points.
Now you have spent eight moves to get this amount. That's a little more than 3 points per move. That is far too inefficient for the opening stage where each move should be at least around 10 points big (not as secure territory but as a possibility to get).
On top of that I don't see any prospects of growth for this area.
But yeah, actually you are right. Overconcentrated shape means mostly secure territory - but inefficient.
EdLee wrote:For beginners.Unusedname wrote:this one too is strange to me, I was sure you should always extend from thickness.
- there is almost no always in Go;
- what we do with thickness depends entirely on the particular whole board situation;
- that you should ALWAYS extend from thickness is simply false in Go;
- that you were sure of it means you got the wrong idea somewhere
(either you got the wrong idea by yourself, or wrong info from someone, or you misunderstood somebody or some materials);
- your N4 group was not exactly thickness at
Seems to be (at least) four questions in there.Unusedname wrote:Haha I admit, I am quite the slave to proverbs and shape.
how do I ensure that I take something away from a review.
...it feels like when I play I just go into a trance.
Unusedname wrote:Haha I admit, I am quite the slave to proverbs and shape.
EdLee wrote:Seems to be (at least) four questions in there.Unusedname wrote:Haha I admit, I am quite the slave to proverbs and shape.
how do I ensure that I take something away from a review.
...it feels like when I play I just go into a trance.
- How do you know the info is correct.
For example, there is NO proverb that says you must always extend from thickness.
So if somebody told you that, then (a) they didn't know what they were talking about and
(b) you have successfully retained a wrong piece of info.
(By the way, have you figured out how you got that wrong idea to begin with? )
- How do you know the reviewer is any good. How do you know anyone is a good teacher in any field, in general.
- How do you know you understand something.
- What do you do about your trance in a game.
The most useful lesson I've ever had. Guo Juan was doing a workshop here and taught us not to push from behind as well as other topics. We then play some games to get reviewed later. During the review from my game she said I had to push from behind more.
That's when I realized following proverbs blindly is bad.
Unusedname wrote:You only do it when no other move seems to be properly serving the same purpose.
SoDesuNe wrote:Unusedname wrote:You only do it when no other move seems to be properly serving the same purpose.
Let this stand by itself and you know a lot more about Go than you might expect ; )