hailthorn vs. billywoods #202

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Re: hailthorn vs. billywoods #202

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Sorry for the pause y'all.

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Re: hailthorn vs. billywoods #202

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No problem. May reply slowly in general - life has got a little more busy.

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Re: hailthorn vs. billywoods #202

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Understood! :salute:

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Re: hailthorn vs. billywoods #202

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I'm expecting black to finish the joseki, otherwise I get to push out, which will make black's position a little unhappy. After that, what shall I do? Hmm. I'm thinking the right-hand side or the upper right is the right place to look at next.
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Re: hailthorn vs. billywoods #202

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Note: Playing this joseki is weird when in a Malk game. Had to do it a few times before I got the stone where I wanted it lol. Silly me.

But to comment on the game, interesting position. Not sure how I feel about it. The top left was not ideal. I like the top right for Black. But maybe playing like that screwed me over.

I think getting the favorable result in this game will depend on whether or not I can diminish the left side for W, gain central control, and ease the weakness on the right. Not necessarily in this order, of course.
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Re: hailthorn vs. billywoods #202

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Sorry about the late response, and thanks for the PM, hailthorn - I had forgotten this was still going on. Let's carry on - I'll have a think about my next move.
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Re: hailthorn vs. billywoods #202

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billywoods wrote:Sorry about the late response, and thanks for the PM, hailthorn - I had forgotten this was still going on. Let's carry on - I'll have a think about my next move.



No problem. I can't say I've always replied in a timely fashion for these things, so take your time.
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I've had my eye on this for a little while, and a split on the right seems natural after the lower right sequence. It might actually be a little too early for this, but I'll play it now as a probe. (I'm not too worried about a fight: my upper group can secure itself with Q17 right now, and playing K18 would work too, but is a bit of a crappy emergency move.) I think this stone asks a useful question: which bit of the right-hand side does my opponent want to keep, and how will he defend it? Let's see whether I'm right.
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