Hi oca, you're over-thinking.oca wrote:On move 28 "Do you see the connect-and-die problems for W at (a) ?"
Well... not sur I really see it...
which also happened in your game: your move
By talking to other players taking high handicap and by playing them.EdLee wrote:Interesting. May I ask how you came to this opinion ? It's possible I had not read all of Ember's texts so far and I missed something.Bantari wrote:I think there is a misunderstanding here.
In my opinion, the source of irritation is not that White makes the best possible moves, but that he does not!
Ember wrote: I didn't want to say anything against attacking moves where you have a plan like closing in in sente, splitting your opponent or the like - this is the game and what makes it interesting!However, what I for my part dislike is only attacking without really having a plan apart from "Killkillkill!!" and just hacking away at someone with unreasonable moves that actually cannot possibly work. If your only plan is "I'll try to kill the group by playing there - although I know it won't work if he answers correctly. If it won't die it's not a problem, there are three more corners I can try, someting is bound to die". I think this is especially true when you're already past that point where you have more than caught up with your opponent and are already leading. That's what I originally meant with "Know where to stop", you don't have to go all out at this point anymore. Keeping sente and getting (most of) the big endgames usually is usually enough to wrap up the game. Of course, if in the game suddenly a chance arrises for you to kill a group and finish the game - finish the game. But harrassing someone like I just explained in this paragraph in my opinion is bad style and not very helpful for either player (in the sense of learning something).
I would try to not consider handicap games (especially with 4+ stones) as real competitive games but rather as teaching games with high learning opportunities. This attitude could help to be more indifferent to the actual game score (which is anyway not very meaningful in high handicap games IMHO) and rather focus on the game contents.Ember wrote:I didn't mean to say anything at all against good moves, be they aggressive or not, but against constantly trying to trick your oponent and looking forward to kill as much in that way as you can instead of having a real pla
Yeah, sorry. It is probably my fault for not reading properly. I skimmed through the thread and these were the thoughts that popped into my head. It is hard for me to understand somebody getting upset that their opponent gives his or her best, so I most likely just blanked this part out.EdLee wrote:Ah. I was talking about Ember's irritation specifically in that one tourney game, not in general.Bantari wrote:However the particular situation of the OP might be,
Mis-communications.