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I was feeling good about this game until I died to death. I appreciate all comments. :D

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Hi Jarmo,

:b43: I wonder if tenuki is bigger ?
( Seems B has three directions to enter/reduce; W won't get too big ? )

:b47: Q3 ?

:b57: M5 ?

:b79: N11 direction bigger ?

:black: 119 S11 ?
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Thanks EdLee! I was most disappointed with the bottom right corner.
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What do you think of the exchange through :w14:? The easiest idea I could think of was just to take a big side and deal with the upper side later. Should I consider a different idea as black?
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Post by EdLee »

I never remember if the exchange :w10: - :b11: is good or bad for White (and Black). :)
And :w14: feels too close to W's jumping stones, to me.
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I have heard that the :w10: :b11: exchange is bad for white because it removes the potential to invade the corner.
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Move 89 should be S17 not S18 and you are pretty much fine against aji white has.
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Thank you. I should have played more conservatively while white was down. I think I could have lived with the clamp of :b129: at m8.
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Jarmo wrote:I have heard that the :w10: :b11: exchange is bad for white because it removes the potential to invade the corner.
When I was learning go, that's what people said. However, pros have started playing it before making a counter-pincer, or even threatening one. One possible reason is that it prevents the diagonal attachment at P-17 if Black sacrifices his pincer stone.

Edit: Also, in the line in this game, if :b13: at J-17, :w14: at Q-12, Black cannot now jump to Q-18.
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Bill Spight wrote:
Jarmo wrote:I have heard that the :w10: :b11: exchange is bad for white because it removes the potential to invade the corner.
When I was learning go, that's what people said. However, pros have started playing it before making a counter-pincer, or even threatening one. One possible reason is that it prevents the diagonal attachment at P-17 if Black sacrifices his pincer stone
People on Tygem play it all the times and I've never felt that I could "punish" it.
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I have no ideas on punishing it as well. Overall I am happier with sente and the side I got, but I can't say if it is better than what white got in exchange. I am also curious as to when I should go back to the top side, or if I should go to the top side right away. When I play games with walls, I enjoy when the opponent jump in right away so I try to avoid it as long as possible.
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