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Offline tj86430
 Post subject: Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Post #81 Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:05 am 
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I took my first proper count, and according to it this game is incredibly close. Before the count I thought I was leading by approx. 10 points, but it seems that we are very even.

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Offline emeraldemon
 Post subject: Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Post #82 Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:01 am 
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Sorry for the delay.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . W X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is a very tricky situation. Probably the simplest way is something like:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . W X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . 3 O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But it could get much more complicated.
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Offline tj86430
 Post subject: Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Post #83 Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:09 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . B O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Edit: I was trying to use my previous post as a basis for next, but misclicked, hence the edits.

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Last edited by tj86430 on Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:13 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Offline emeraldemon
 Post subject: Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Post #84 Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:57 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . W . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This move may look a little small, but I have to protect some weakness around this area. I think I can keep sente here.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Trade looks good for white
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 3 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . W . . . . . . . 2 O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Post #85 Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:14 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . B X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This should be interesting

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Post #86 Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:13 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . W O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #87 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:28 pm 
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I will be on a trip for two weeks starting tomorrow, but I will try to make a move every now and then. My apologies for possible delays.

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Post #88 Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:50 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . B X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I probably misread this the first time, but this should still create some aji, and of course there is always the miniscule possibility that emeraldemon will make a mistake. I want to play G12, but I feel it's better to push once first. The other important point in the center is M11, but I feel this side is more important. The bottom edge is open from both sides, and I don't think I will be able to defend either in sente, so I probably wont be able to achieve much there.

This is very difficult for me, and I very much would like to see some comments later on

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Post #89 Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:35 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , W X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


There's some aji here, but I'm ok:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 6 W X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O 5 3 O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 8 . 4 1 O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 2 O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , W X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . 4 O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 2 O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 3 1 O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . 5 O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . 6 . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #90 Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:04 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . B O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Let's see which variation he chooses

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Post #91 Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:59 am 
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How was your trip?

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 3 O X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . 6 O 2 B O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 5 . . 1 O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . 5 O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 O O X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 1 . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 8 7 . 3 4 O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 5 X X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 O X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O 3 B O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 4 . 1 O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #92 Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:16 pm 
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I'm still on it (returning on Saturday after spending two weeks in two different cabins in "wilderness"). So far the trip has been excellent, this has been the hottest summer ever in Finland)

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O B . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This may even be sente, which would be much more than I expected. Either way, this is my original plan to strengthen the upper left group and to create potential territory in the center.

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Post #93 Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:27 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . W . O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: 45. emeraldemon (3k) vs. tj86430 (7k)
Post #94 Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:44 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . B . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can think of nothing bigger (please tell me later if there is something). This exceeds my expectations. I believe I have a good chance of winning this, although I haven't counted after the latest developments.

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Post #95 Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:52 pm 
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My count has TJ slightly ahead, but it's a fairly iffy estimation. Seems like there's also a bit of wiggle room in the situation, with plenty of big endgame left.

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Post #96 Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:12 pm 
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I'd want to do something with this aji before it's all gone. Surely Black can get something on this edge?

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . C . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . B O . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #97 Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:16 pm 
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Topazg:
Do you think it's worth white taking gote right now to fix it? If not, it may have been better for black to take the move he did, first, then return there to try to live?

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Post #98 Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:20 pm 
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Certainly, Black's current move is gote, and it's big for White to fix. At the very least it removes 6+ bumper ko threats...

The area Black is walling off is still fairly reducable - It's undeniably big though :)
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Post #99 Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:10 pm 
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It's VERY tempting to read all those comments. But I will be good :)

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O 3 |
$$ | . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . X X 1 |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . B . O O . . . 2 |
$$ | . . . , O X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


How much can I get in sente? I just played it out in the sgf editor, I think If I get everything I want in sente... I lose by one point :sad: .
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 9 7 8 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O 3 |
$$ | . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . X X 1 |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . B . O O . . 4 2 |
$$ | . . . , O X X X . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . 6 5 O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #100 Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:21 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O . O X . . . O X . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . X O . . X . X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . X . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . . O O |
$$ | . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . X X O |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . X . O O . . . X |
$$ | . . . , O X X X . , . . . . X X . B . |
$$ | . . O . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This looks better than S11

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