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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #61 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:08 pm 
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for topazg:

I look forwards to seeing how I should play in the Big Brother game =) Though I guess Numsgil's around my rank, so it's the blind leading the blind =D

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #62 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:16 pm 
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For Chew Terr:

Haha, yeah, I know that feeling - however, from my reading in the BB game this can get really complicated in all sorts of directions, and I may decide to look for a trick play simply because I have 70 points to get from somewhere.
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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #63 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:25 pm 
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Yeah, you've been saying all game that you're trying to make it complicated and confusing for someone around 8k, and I feel well equipped to say: this is. =)

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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #64 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:21 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm45 Move 45
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm42 Move 42-44
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X b . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


'a' and 'b' are the joseki choices. This isn't a joseki I "know" beyond "memorization" (*cough*Looked it up*cough*). I chose 'b' because it adds pressure to white's D8 stone and threatens to engulf it in a large moyo. This is the end of the joseki. I have no idea how to handle the E16 group, incidentally, if white's D14 group lives. So I will doggedly make sure I can capture it, or chase it for life and territory. White is alive in the corner.

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #65 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:39 am 
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[go]$$Wcm46 Move 46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

The joseki ends, the fun and games begin!

That last sequence I played in the last move I called interesting. The more I look, the more I want to change the verdict to horrible. Even if I kill the group in the top left I make him hugely thick facing the lower left, negating my own influence and putting my lone D8 stone in a lonely spot. So I play here to still target that top left group without making him so thick.


Tactics and Variations

If he takes the obvious looking key shape point, I intend to kill the top left. If he protects the top left, I intend on attacking the left:

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[go]$$Wcm46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X 4 5 O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . 6 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X 5 4 O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X 9 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . 7 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X 5 4 O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . 8 6 7 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . 2 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . 4 O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #66 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:50 am 
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[go]$$Bcm47 Move 47
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations
This tesuji doesn't work:
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[go]$$Bcm47 Move 47
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O 6 7 9 0 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 3 O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 4 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Likewise, this ends similarly.

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[go]$$Bcm47 Move 47
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O 6 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 3 O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 4 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This sequence seems more promising. I'll need to be more careful about reading it out depending on white's next move. But it seems like the best response.

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[go]$$Bcm47 Move 47
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X 3 4 O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . 5 7 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #67 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:55 am 
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[go]$$Bcm47 Move 47
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The ladder on this stone is broken right now, by the way. The loose ladder doesn't work, either. When I feel confident about the top left, I might look here again.

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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #68 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:57 am 
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[go]$$Wcm48 Move 48
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

Wahey, up go the stakes! This will be one of my best chances to get a result that gains me 20+ points, but Black will need to make a much worse mistake than he has so far.


Tactics and Variations

See previous move's analysis. I've analysed this position so much for our BB game already prior to White's deviation in that one :P


Score and Counting

So far, White simply hasn't managed to pull back anywhere near enough for the moves played. My general goal was to catch up 10 points for every 30 moves. We're up to 16 points that should have been caught up, and I feel like it's more like 10 or so, so this sequence will play a big factor in the game result.
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Post #69 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:16 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm49 Move 49
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . 1 O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Reading it out a bit more, I think I can get him to hurt his H16 stone, and I can start to build up some eye space I might be able to turn into life. If not, I can still run into the center a bit.

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[go]$$Bcm49 Move 49
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . 3 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X 2 1 O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X 7 8 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O 9 6 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is the naive continuation by white.

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[go]$$Bcm59
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O 5 O X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 6 O X O 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 7 3 O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


For this reason, white may respond differently to my move here. Maybe like this:

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[go]$$Bcm49 Move 49
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . 1 O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Of course the sequence starts to revert back to what I had before.

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Post #70 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:18 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm50 Move 50
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X 1 X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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All as expected, sadly. If he's willing to sacrifice those stones for thickness it's great for him to be happy playing so flexibly - it's almost definitely bad news for me :(
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Post #71 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:55 pm 
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Looks like both players will get a surprise if numsgil plays like he's planning on playing...

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Post #72 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 1:43 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm51 Move 51
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Just continuing from my last diagrams.

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Post #73 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:02 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm52 Move 52
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Finally, a blunder. So, Black can live as follows:

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[go]$$Wcm52 Move 52
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X 4 . 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X 1 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But it's another lovely result for thickness and influence. Now I'm going to go start a fight. I may play 58 elsewhere because I'm so far behind, but it is the proper move. If Black gets greedy, it's a world of hurt.

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[go]$$Wcm52 Move 52
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . b 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X a . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


"a" is a ladder, and "b" kills his group.
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Post #74 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:10 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm53 Move 53
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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I'm not sure what he's going for. This is the best sequence I can see for white. I definitely favor black in this situation. Maybe he sees some way to squeeze to remove eye space? But I don't see white killing black's group, so I'm not terribly worried.

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[go]$$Bcm53 Move 53
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . 2 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X 5 7 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O 4 6 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #75 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:11 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm54 Move 54
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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He's taking the greedy route ...
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Post #76 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:22 pm 
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Didn't think about this sequence till just now.
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[go]$$Bcm53 Move 53
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X 6 4 2 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X 5 X O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So I think white is forcing this sequence, which is less horrible for either side. Though if the G15 group dies, I'm screwed.

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[go]$$Bcm53 Move 53
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . 3 2 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O 1 5 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #77 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:24 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm55 Move 55
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


See my last post

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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #78 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:27 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm56 Move 56
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$$ | . O O X . X O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Wow :shock:

Things have gone bad to a lot lot worse for Black. Now his big group is dead and the ladder works -- he's lost everything! Of course, he's still winning, but one thing at a time :D
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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #79 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:37 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm57 Move 57
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X O X O . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Only move locally, I think. Not sure how he's going to respond. He's in an awkward situation, but there's lots of opportunity for me to screw up :P

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Post #80 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:38 pm 
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Oh crap, my two black cutting stones can be laddered. Damn, this is going downhill very quickly.

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