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#237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

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Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 1:00 pm
by tj86430
That was a move I didn't anticipate. Now I can continue with previous plan and play P12, capturing two stones and connecting my groups, but giving him a bit more territory than I had planned to. OTOH, I can play R15, keeping him disconnected and trying to kill the whole lot - and, if failing to do so, potentially having a whole lot of trouble to save my stones from L10 all the way to R16.

I will have to try to do some reading, I guess.

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 4:29 am
by tj86430
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[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It would probably be safest to take the two white stones, but this way I'll probably learn more. And, if my reading is correct, I may be able to kill his R12 group. If I play P12, it seems that he will be able to make small life on the side and/or connect to R17.


DJLLAP, I'm off to 1,5 weeks vacation, so my playing is going to continue to be slow, I'm afraid.

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:39 pm
by DJLLAP
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[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 2 O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this is necessary before starting the ko. If he tries to kill outright instead of allowing a ko, I think I can capture a lot of stones. But I might have missed a key move or something.

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:47 pm
by tj86430
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[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this is the only move to make sure that group stays connected. White can of course force me to make an ugly dumpling by e.g.

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[go]$$Bcm72 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O 8 9 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 7 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B 5 X 6 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 3 X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

but there will be lots of cutting points and I'm hoping I can win the fight

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:04 pm
by DJLLAP
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[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . X 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Time to make ko. There should be a ton of threats, so I feel good about this groups chances, and if it lives, there might be a huge capturing race between my cut off group on bottom and his on top.

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 10:55 pm
by tj86430
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[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I need to stay connected.

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:28 am
by DJLLAP
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[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I did lot of reading for this move. W can live on the side unconditionally by playing 'a'. But by doing so, gives up sente to be destroyed in the center and bottom. I am too far behind to be playing it safe. Black cannot kill by playing at 'b', so the result should be a ko. I really wish I had an extra move to reinforce the cut at c. If I respond to a ko threat there, there will be many more to follow.

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[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O a . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . b . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X c . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:47 am
by tj86430
My desktop machine where I had all the reading I had done earlier is currently in an unusable state, and I don't know exactly when I will have time to get it up and running. Can you wait a bit more?

If not, I will just make a move without reading based on gut feeling.

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:21 am
by DJLLAP
Sure, take your time.

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:30 am
by tj86430
After lots of computer problems as well as other things keeping me busy, I'm back (I hope)

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[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I didn't read much, but this looks like a good idea. Let's hope it is. It should protect my weak spots as well as threaten to cut his top group. Also, it should help capturing the L12 stones, if that becomes necessary.

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:20 pm
by DJLLAP
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[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 8 X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


We'll see how this goes.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 5 1 4 . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X 7 X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O 6 3 X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 8 . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:04 am
by tj86430
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 9 O X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:50 am
by DJLLAP
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 9 O X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O 0 . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:02 pm
by tj86430
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm80 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O 1 X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:59 pm
by DJLLAP
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm80 Black: 0 , White: 0
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Comments
This is better than I projected. I don't think B can avoid ko now.
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