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Posted: **Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:21 am**

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Common 2-2 joseki, I'm surprised you don't know it. White plays :w1:

for influence. He usually has a 4-4 or 5-4 stone in the opposite corner when playing such a move. Black responds at :b2:

to counter this strategy while white plays the shoulder hit at :w3:

to again try for influence. At this point, black is happy to get some fourth line territory, and white is happy to gain his influence (usually pushing along with :w5:

and

). Clearly (a) will be a key point in this position later.

Posted: **Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:27 am**

mw42, thanks.

Posted: **Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:33 am**

And, of course, black playing five inches off the side of the board is a well-known ninja tesuji....

Posted: **Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:05 pm**

Inkwolf wrote:And, of course, black playing five inches off the side of the board is a well-known ninja tesuji....

Inkwolf, that one is more clear: the speaker was using the Black stone merely as a pointing device,
on the surveillance photo, to mark a building/structure (?) -- the dialogue subtitle helps tremendously,
"Natsume says he confirmed Kaburagi is there."

One nice touch is the drawings made it clear from the way he held the Black stone as a pointing device (with his right thumb and index finger),
versus the Go way in the previous screen shot, the way the player held the White stone
in the almost-ponnuki shape with his Left index and middle fingers.

Posted: **Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:45 pm**

EdLee wrote:
Inkwolf wrote:And, of course, black playing five inches off the side of the board is a well-known ninja tesuji....
Inkwolf, that one is more clear: the speaker was using the Black stone merely as a pointing device,
on the surveillance photo, to mark a building/structure (?)

It is clear that you have not yet experienced the off-the-board ninja tesuji.
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Posted: **Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:57 am**

But do we see the "drop your stone in your drink" or "dip your fingers in coffee instead of the stone bowl" tesujis here?

Those are some of my personal favorites (and I demonstrate them often enough...).

Bruce "Big Dipper" Young

Posted: **Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:05 am**

BaghwanB wrote:But do we see the "drop your stone in your drink" or "dip your fingers in coffee instead of the stone bowl" tesujis here?

Those are some of my personal favorites (and I demonstrate them often enough...).

So I and we are not the only ones. At our local regular Go evenings here in the village I’ve experienced some more of these. Since we all are smokers (yes, we all know that’s bad), ash trays are allowed on the playing tables, and we have also sweets and nuts standing around in bowls, plus our coffee or tea mugs. Adding to what you’ve described, I’ve seen:

fingers dipped into an ashtray
one person sacrilegously dipping ash into a stone bowl
another one frequently putting a stone in their mouth
a few of us repeatedly placing a nut or sweet on the board.

I won’t tell of which of those sins I’ve been guilty.
(And although it should be needless to say: I regularly wash the stones and wipe the boards.)

Posted: **Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:45 pm**

I'm guessing this is the right place to put this...well, my little brother is reading this book called Whirligig by Paul Fleischman and he showed me a part of the book in which Go is played. I thought it was pretty interesting, so yeah...just wanted to post this here.

Posted: **Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:10 pm**

For all you starcrafters:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmes ... _id=358724

"... I had already been on a month break from Starcraft to play Go.."

what

Posted: **Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:06 pm**

Yeah, it was cool to read about his early Go aspirations. I recall that Day9 also had some interest in the game as well. Sad to see Jinro retiring, seems like yesterday I was up at 3am watching his amazing GSL performance when he was in code S.

Posted: **Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:44 pm**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRAoR0rKtec

I'm not sure how mainstream this is but Egoraptor's a fairly well known animator online and about 39 minutes into this Q&A panel, he briefly mentions Hikaru no Go and Go. He evens calls it the best game ever ^^

Posted: **Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:40 pm**

In episode 4 of the Korean historical drama 千秋太后/Cheon Chu Taehu (aka The Iron Empress), two of the characters are seen playing a game of Baduk.

The board they are playing on appears to use found pieces that have been polished and not carved stones.

The series takes place around 950 c.e. Do you think this is historically based, or one of the many liberties taken by the production?

You can watch the entire series on Drama Fever and Hulu. So far there has been more violence, backstabbing, political intrigue, and bat-guano crazy royalty in four episodes of this thing than an entire season of "Game of Thrones". I can't wait to watch the rest.

Posted: **Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:18 pm**

Redbeard wrote:...one of the many Liberties taken by the production?

Redbeard, thanks for the link; that scene happens early on at around 00:07:54.

Posted: **Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:05 pm**

Redbeard wrote:The series takes place around 950 c.e. Do you think this is historically based, or one of the many liberties taken by the production?

I'm not sure about the shape of the stones. But according to a lecture by Nam Chi-Hyung (Korean pro) I attended during the US Go Congress, the Koreans would likely be playing Sunjang Baduk during that time period. It has many different rules, one of which is the prescribed placement of stones (shown below). It's difficult to tell, but the closeup image doesn't seem to conform.

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Posted: **Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:04 pm**

judicata wrote:I'm not sure about the shape of the stones. But according to a lecture by Nam Chi-Hyung (Korean pro) I attended during the US Go Congress, the Koreans would likely be playing Sunjang Baduk during that time period. It has many different rules, one of which is the prescribed placement of stones (shown below). It's difficult to tell, but the closeup image doesn't seem to conform.

The following go board, a gift from a Korean king to the Japanese emperor in the early 7th century, has sunjang baduk star points marked.
Warning: Large image

It is still unclear if sunjang baduk was the only kind of baduk played in Korea at that time. The term sunjang baduk originated in the early 20th century, although sunjang baduk was played long before that. No term for sunjang baduk seems to have existed before then, which makes it possible (even likely) that Chinese style go was also widely played.

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