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#187 lovelove vs Marcus

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Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:43 am
by lovelove
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . . 7 . O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:15 am
by Marcus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . 8 O . O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Still within my reading ... and a bit more reading has identified a few more tricky points in the fight. I need to make this hane under to keep my C13 group from getting swallowed. At least, that's what my reading is telling me.

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:17 am
by lovelove
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O . O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:20 am
by Marcus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O . O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . 0 X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I admit, this order of moves was not one I had considered previously. A bit of reading seems to indicate I can still pull this out, but let's see what lovelove has in mind.

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:23 am
by lovelove
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[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O . O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | 1 X X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I could be have been in danger.

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:30 am
by Marcus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . 2 . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O . O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Oh man ... I REALLY hope I haven't miscounted or misread here. :D

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:33 am
by lovelove
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[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O 3 O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

:scratch:

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:38 am
by Marcus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O O O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . 4 X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is the best line I can find for myself. I wonder, though, if I might have missed a better line for Black?

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:41 am
by lovelove
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[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O O O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X 5 . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

:roll:

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:01 am
by Marcus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O O O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 8 . O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X 6 X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Heh ... I did read this possibility out ... but I missed a line of play. My latest reading is a ko ... but White takes first and there's nothing as big as this fight on the board. I guess lovelove will breathe a bit easier at the end of all this.

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:04 am
by lovelove
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[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O O O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X 9 O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

:shock:

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:40 am
by Marcus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O O O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 0 X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I love the faces, BTW.

As the end draws nearer for this fight, there's at least one line I can see where White can kill unconditionally. That's gonna suck. It's a tough line, though. Maybe I can get some compensation.

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:52 am
by lovelove
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[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoners: :b1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O O O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O 1 . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Marcus wrote:I love the faces, BTW.

:mrgreen:

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:57 am
by Marcus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . 2 . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O O O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


At this point, I believe White will win the capturing race by 1, unless lovelove makes a mistake.

Re: #187 lovelove vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:01 pm
by lovelove
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[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . . . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . O O X . . . , . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O . . . . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . X O O O X X O . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | O X X O O O X X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O X . X X X O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . O X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . X X O O . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . 3 O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
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