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Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:31 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
For observers:
Dragon Pie will almost certainly approve. And if younger brother goes ahead with his plan, it may look like this:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc :b3: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
:b1: is sente, but so is :w2:. And white's may be bigger.

So I may prefer this:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm :b3: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . 1 . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . 4 5 . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
...even if it costs 3 stones.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:56 am
by Splatted
I forgot to say
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm1 :b3: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . 1 , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Forming a box with 2 would be very good for black, but that would allow me to get the last big extension, so I'm not worried about it.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm1 :b3: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . W . . W . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . a . . . . . . . . . b . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , 3 . . . . , . . . . 1 , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
taking the other extension would make miai of a and b (a seems more valuable to black, but b seems to work better with the marked stones), so I'd probably be okay with this too, but I'm not sure my position on the left side justifies :w3:

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:24 am
by illluck
Not sure, but Joaz's anticipated change doesn't look better than the anticipated original move either.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:06 am
by Joaz Banbeck
*BUMP*

@Dragonpie: your move?

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:40 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
@Skydyr: Hey partner, should we claim a win on time?

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:43 pm
by skydyr
Joaz Banbeck wrote:@Skydyr: Hey partner, should we claim a win on time?
I guess it would help if we set time limits in the first place. Maybe we can find a substitute?

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:38 pm
by skydyr
Splatted,
What do you want to do?

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:55 pm
by Splatted
I'm in two minds, which is why I didn't post before, but I guess the best option would be to see if someone wants to take over for dragon pie. Any takers?

What I really want to avoid is lots of waiting around followed by abandoning the game because right now I'm really interested in reading the comments, but I doubt I will be after a month spent not thinking about it.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:31 pm
by skydyr
Why don't we wait until, say, Saturday, and declare it over if no one has stepped up?

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:38 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
I want to read comments now. :D

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:34 am
by Splatted
Saturday sounds good. (Can you wait that long Joaz?)

Edit: To be clear to anyone who just reads the last post, we're looking for a 1dan to take over for DragonPie.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:31 am
by Splatted
Bump

Anyone around 1d want to take over for Dragon Pie?

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:23 am
by TIM82
Splatted wrote:Bump

Anyone around 1d want to take over for Dragon Pie?
Will I do? 1k IRL, 1d KGS. I think I can commit to approving something on most days, although on July I may be travelling somewhat :)

I have read the hidden comments in this thread, but it was days ago, don't remember much and in any case the game will soon move forward.

Open or closed book & database for big brothers? Both are fine for me, just need to know.

And finally, if I'm an acceptable substitute, I approve white's last move

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:14 am
by Splatted
1d KGS is perfect. Welcome to the team. :D

Unless someone has an objection I guess that makes it skydyr's move.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #5

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:12 am
by skydyr
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm21 :b3: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . 6 , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The plan:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc :b3: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . 6 5 . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 7 . 4 . . 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , 2 . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . 9 . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]