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95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

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Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:29 pm
by Aphelion
Balmung, if you wish we could treat this as an open game where we could see each other's comments. I think it will be a good learning experience :razz:

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:32 pm
by balmung
That is fine.

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:34 pm
by Aphelion
Alright, its your move then :)

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:38 pm
by balmung
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[go]$$Wcm10 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



my thoughts


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[go]$$B1cm10 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . a X W X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 O X 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 6 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

originaly I didn't read this out right I didn't realize 7 and a might be miai correct me if I'm wrong but a at move 8 seems to make this a even harder fight in your favor, and I might be wrong about sequence of moves.

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:14 pm
by EdLee
balmung wrote:my thoughts
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[go]$$B
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X W X . . |
$$. 3 O X 7 . . |
$$. 5 4 6 . . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]
W would get a very big corner:
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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 W X 4 . . |
$$. . 5 6 8 . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:10 am
by Puppycakes
@Ed Lee:

Why wouldn't black play like this?

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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 O X 4 . . |
$$. . 7 5 6 . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Then he also has this later:
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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . O O . . |
$$. . X O X 6 . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. X . X O 2 . |
$$. . X X O 1 4 |
$$. . . . 3 5 . |
$$---------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 O X 4 6 . |
$$. . . 5 . . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Or perhaps white would respond like this. Does that stone have much aji?

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:33 am
by amnal
Puppycakes wrote:@Ed Lee:

Why wouldn't black play like this?

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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 O X 4 . . |
$$. . 7 5 6 . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Then he also has this later:
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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . O O . . |
$$. . X O X 6 . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. X . X O 2 . |
$$. . X X O 1 4 |
$$. . . . 3 5 . |
$$---------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 O X 4 6 . |
$$. . . 5 . . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Or perhaps white would respond like this. Does that stone have much aji?

EDIT: Seems like a lot of aji.

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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . 4 . |
$$. . . O O 3 . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. . X O X 5 9 |
$$. X . X O 1 6 |
$$. . X X O 2 7 |
$$. . . . . . 8 |
$$---------------[/go]

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:42 am
by Shaddy
amnal wrote:
Puppycakes wrote:@Ed Lee:

Why wouldn't black play like this?

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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 O X 4 . . |
$$. . 7 5 6 . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Then he also has this later:
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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . O O . . |
$$. . X O X 6 . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. X . X O 2 . |
$$. . X X O 1 4 |
$$. . . . 3 5 . |
$$---------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 O X 4 6 . |
$$. . . 5 . . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Or perhaps white would respond like this. Does that stone have much aji?

EDIT: Seems like a lot of aji.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . 4 . |
$$. . . O O 3 . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. . X O X 5 9 |
$$. X . X O 1 6 |
$$. . X X O 2 7 |
$$. . . . . . 8 |
$$---------------[/go]


Observers:
Edlee's variation is sente for black, yours is gote. Also in the last diagram, 6 is better at 7, and then black is unconditionally dead.

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:54 am
by Puppycakes
amnal wrote:
Puppycakes wrote:@Ed Lee:

Why wouldn't black play like this?

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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 O X 4 . . |
$$. . 7 5 6 . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Then he also has this later:
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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . O O . . |
$$. . X O X 6 . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. X . X O 2 . |
$$. . X X O 1 4 |
$$. . . . 3 5 . |
$$---------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 O X 4 6 . |
$$. . . 5 . . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Or perhaps white would respond like this. Does that stone have much aji?

EDIT: Seems like a lot of aji.

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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . 4 . |
$$. . . O O 3 . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. . X O X 5 9 |
$$. X . X O 1 6 |
$$. . X X O 2 7 |
$$. . . . . . 8 |
$$---------------[/go]



So this sequence looks fine.
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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 W X 4 6 . |
$$. . . 5 a . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


I was just wondering if there was a reason that Ed thought that black would take with five instead of extending. I was wondering about ways for white to exploit the aji of the marked stone later.

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[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. b . O O . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. X W X O O . |
$$. . . X a . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Like the jump to b.

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[go]$$W :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. 1 . O O . . |
$$2 . X O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. X O X O O . |
$$. . . X . . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Which I perhaps black could respond with the jump to 2 and I think the exchange was bad.
So I'm wondering if there is a good reason for black to not extend.

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:08 pm
by Puppycakes
Shaddy wrote:
amnal wrote:
Puppycakes wrote:@Ed Lee:

Why wouldn't black play like this?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 O X 4 . . |
$$. . 7 5 6 . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Then he also has this later:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . O O . . |
$$. . X O X 6 . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. X . X O 2 . |
$$. . X X O 1 4 |
$$. . . . 3 5 . |
$$---------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 O X 4 6 . |
$$. . . 5 . . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]


Or perhaps white would respond like this. Does that stone have much aji?

EDIT: Seems like a lot of aji.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . 4 . |
$$. . . O O 3 . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. . X O X 5 9 |
$$. X . X O 1 6 |
$$. . X X O 2 7 |
$$. . . . . . 8 |
$$---------------[/go]


Observers:
Edlee's variation is sente for black, yours is gote. Also in the last diagram, 6 is better at 7, and then black is unconditionally dead.

Ok, that makes sense. For some reason I was thinking that either way of playing ended in the same status for sente/gote.

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:36 pm
by EdLee
@Puppycakes.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B :b7: at :wc:
$$. . . . . . . |
$$. . . O . . . |
$$. . . 2 O . . |
$$. . 1 O X . . |
$$. . X O X . . |
$$. 3 W X 4 . . |
$$. . 5 6 8 . . |
$$. . . . . . . |
$$---------------[/go]
What Shaddy said. :) Sente/gote is very big.
Also, W may not be able to atari at :w6: if W cannot afford the ko,
in which case W would just extend to :w8: directly, so B still has sente.
So the :b5: capture is clean, clear, good aji (for B), and sente -- all the good stuff. :)

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:57 pm
by Aphelion
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm12 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . W O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Balmung, you can read all my hide tags, I just use them for organization.
This is the kind of move you don't even bother thinking about. White simply has to connect here for his previous moves to have any meaning. Now, Black has a choice. He either fixes his cut and the fight becomes complicated, or he takes outside thickness and sacrifices the corner. I'm happy with either.

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[go]$$Wcm12 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 O X 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wonder if white can sacrifice one more stone to end in sente in above variation...

Or it can get really messy:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm10 First variation that comes to mind.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 6 X O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . 4 5 X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 O X 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:33 pm
by balmung
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm17 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . 1 O X 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Is this okay because I want the outside influence and you said you happy either way

Is it better to jump out or connect my two stones in the upper right? tell me what you think I really feel the jump is more valuable and I think you spliting invasion is an ok price to pay.

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:26 am
by Tommie
Aphelion wrote:
the messy variant
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[go]$$Wcm10 First variation that comes to mind.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 6 X O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . 4 5 X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 O X 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Several remarks:
i) general: the heuristic 'capture the cutting stone' is more often than not a safe guidance.
Hence, the first diagram with side-ponuki for Black and corner for White is preferred by me.

ii) technically:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm10
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X b a . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . c . 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

often one should consider the hanging connection, as shown here.
However here this would be so weird after an white A, B (+ C?) exchange,
that again, I go back to remark i) 'Capture the cutting stone'.

iii) Tesuji :w9: must induce exchange A-B, which white happily accepts for the lower side.
WD could follow.
What comes hereafter is speculation to me, yet I evaluate it not bad at all for White.

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[go]$$Wcm10 tesuji to be looked at
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . d . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 8 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . a c . 1 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . b 7 6 X O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . 4 5 X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 O X 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



iv) Other suji is the simple extension, threatening a ladder A-E,
even if Black extends to F (hence he might bamboo @ G),
allowing W to jump out with J.

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[go]$$Wcm10 other variation
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . j . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . g f . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . e c Y O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . d b a O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X X O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , n m X O X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X B . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . p o . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black's resistance M is better not answered by hane N, if W wants to keep her 3 stones below (as they might be valuable against the black corner), hence a submissive jump to P seems ok, and B will extend at N.

I tried to cover something in variations.

Re: 95: Balmung (7k?) vs Aphelion (5k)

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:27 pm
by Aphelion
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[go]$$Wcm18 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Yea, I'm fine with this. Looking at this, Black position on the board feels a little low overall. I'm not quite sure how that is immediately exploitable or even bad at first glance, but there's no rush. I can just take this large point so far. I'm choosing high instead of low because the low move seems to make the board seem too settled and boring. I want to invite a fight on the left.
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