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Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:14 am
by Magicwand
Q4
i think i am winning at least 10 pts

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:18 am
by topazg
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Aiming at this I guess:

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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:31 am
by topazg
Further thoughts:

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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 9 . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 8 . 0 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:w40: tesuji?

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:25 pm
by Loons
40 does not look like tesuji to me, (MW isn't trying to make eyes locally and it doesn't take a liberty). The problem is 41 at S5. Perhaps white should have just played 132 at Q4.

Unless of course 140...R2 S5 T4 is applicable there (R2 S2 S5 S3 S1 lousy approach ko?)

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:35 pm
by Magicwand
Q2 atari

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:41 pm
by topazg
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 9 . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 8 0 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


[b]EDIT: Sorry, magicwand, I thought you were playing the other side. Brain fart :P

Try this one:

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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O 8 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Actually, maybe this was easier:

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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 9 . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 8 0 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . 2 . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O 1 4 |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X X 3 . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Rather a lot at stake here ...

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:52 pm
by Magicwand
R2 push. If hanne then cut atari

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:01 pm
by topazg
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners: :b2: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O W . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Extending is fine :)

I'm assuming he's going to push again - I think he has to, then I'm going to peep for liberties and see if I can tenuki

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[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners: :b2: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . 4 . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X 3 X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O W . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'd love to do this if I don't die in the corner ...

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:56 pm
by Magicwand
S2 push

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:08 pm
by topazg
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners: :b2: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Man this is miserable. Q4 really would have been so much better.

Two big blunders, I'm pretty definitely behind now.

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:55 pm
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X C 3 O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i am sorry for not being able to post comments due to my lack of computer.
i have no weak group and am winning on points. i think point differental is more than 25 now.

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:39 pm
by topazg
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X C 3 O 4 . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:41 pm
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X 5 X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:44 pm
by topazg
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . 6 . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X 5 X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:52 pm
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . 7 . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . O . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
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