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I'm not a fan of . Joaz said he wants to push white towards his h12 "strength" (I put it in quotes because it is not particularly thick, white g13 is annoying bad aji), but now he plays from the direction of his strength. k10 and l11 are liable to end up heavy and wanting to be sacrificed, so how about tenuki instead, building the outside consistent with his previous moves?

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I don't actually like that so much either as the right side is too high and open that the development there is uncertain. I suppose there could be an argument that the hane he played slows white down as he runs out (much like you sometimes cap before falling back to defend a moyo so that you opponent has to slowly run around it), but it feels like forcing white out through a smallish gap. So what might happen with the hane? If white pushes on it and black keeps defending it then white gets out ahead, nice for white. Note that even with the g13 aji could still be annoying later.

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And if black doesn't defend 72 and treats it lightly (probably better), then we have something like the below which also seems quite comfortable for white. White might also play as kosumi one to the right here if he feels is not an important enough stone to push against.

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Magicwand wrote:K11 atari!

Gosh, don't like letting black get the m10 atari to surround, but if black keeps going with 6 then MW plans atari your way to fun and profit?. In which case black would have to back off and let white out.

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How about just connect:

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Indeed Ed, that looks good enough for black, seeing as white can't even safely one point jump or black can wedge (unless white wants huge ko). In which case the cap at 5 feels pleasant and postpones g13 worries. This way white has turned black's h12 into a good move (I thought it was probably a bad move).

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An exclamation point? Or should I say: an exclamation point!
He seems to think that I am not as strong around there as I though I was.
He may be right. My tengen may be untenable. My proverbs my be unproven. My plan may be unpalatable.

Specifically, the problem is this:

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And he comes out with a strong group whose influence may dominate future fights in the upper and right sides.

It may be time to pull out my old copy of 'Go Proverbs' and look for something more relevant. Or, at least, it may be time to abandon the tengen stone - and the current plan.

Sigh. Gotta go think for a while.

After some reflection, I concluded that my upper group wasn't as strong as I thought that it was. After a little more reflection, I concluded that MW thinks so too. That is why he played the superficially ajikeshi-ish E8: he is raising the stakes because he thinks that my group is attackable.

So, in the absence of a workable plan ( the old plan is defunct and I haven't thought of a new one ) I'm simply going to play a move that should frustrate his intentions...for the short term anyway.

Maybe tenuki for W...

...Now that there's no huge moyo on the right.

Joaz Banbeck wrote:...my prospective corner territory in the lower right is becoming bigger. If I get one spare tenuki to play R5, I am ahead by an almost insurmountable margin...

Magicwand wrote:R3

I guess that I couldn't expect him to miss it.

My play, of course, is to block on the side that I have the best extension.

Joaz is significantly stronger than me, but I would have blocked on the other side. Building a wall facing left seems over-concentrated, though I guess it makes the K3 stones unlikely to be activated. Anyone want to comment on the proper direction of play?

Jeromie, ( maybe risky ) --

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