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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:16 am
by daniel_the_smith
Actually, I was wrong, it's ok for black:

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O . O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . O . , O X . 3 X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . 1 2 . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O 6 . B . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 4 5 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:17 am
by Kirby
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[go]$$Wcm81 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 0 . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , O X . . X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Let's call it an experiment...

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:48 am
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm91 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , 1 . . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , O X . . X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:53 am
by Kirby
Maybe I can kill the corner... But I'd better be :batman: sure, first.

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:55 am
by Magicwand
what is on my mind:
it is very hard to kill big dragon so i will only try to intimidate it and obtain ko threat for lower right corner.
but...i think his group is weak enough to be killed..:D
we will see how he answer...

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:06 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Kirby wrote:Maybe I can kill the corner...


Seems optimistic to me. Anytime white plays 'a', while defending his corner, then 'b' is a threat.
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , 1 . . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , O X . b X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . a X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:43 pm
by Laman
i am not a big fan of Kirby's 'experimental' C7... i think i would be more inclined to play as below (similar to one of Joaz Banbeck's previous sequences)

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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . 7 . . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . 2 . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . 1 O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . x . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . 3 5 X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . 4 . O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . 6 . , O X . . X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

white's center seems pretty weak to me, giving black prospects of making good points on the left and eventually also defending at H16

and, despite Magicwand's games are really great and enjoyable, i think Kirby should try to play someone else again

Kirby: next time i want to see you crushing a weaker opponent ;-)

playing handicaps against stronger player all the time is not good

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:07 pm
by Kirby
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm91 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . 2 , O X . . X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I don't think I can kill. Can I get a good result? I hope so.

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:12 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm91 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ | . . 3 O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:17 pm
by Kirby
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm91 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ | . . . X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . . X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . O X O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:18 pm
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm91 Captured Stones\nW: 1, B: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O X X O X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . . X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 5 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:22 pm
by Kirby
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm91 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 0
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$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O X X . X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . 6 X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:27 pm
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm91 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O X X . X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

after i capture the side i will start the ko.
i have a giant ko threat at "a"
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[go]$$Wcm91 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O X X . X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . a . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:32 pm
by Kirby
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm91 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . 8 X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O X X . X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I didn't expect him to attack back right now. I guess I thought he would defend.

I think I am in trouble.

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:33 pm
by Kirby
I must worry about the following points:
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[go]$$Wcm91 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . c . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . 8 X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O X X . X . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X b X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . a . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I cannot do everything, so I may be in trouble, now.


Plus, my group might be dead... :-)