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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:03 am
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 4 . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I'm committed now ... ;)

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:10 am
by 1986
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i changed up my last variation a bit at first i didn't want to attach his stone, but now its a strong group so maybey its not helping a weak stone anymore. But the main reason i choose to attach is because the knights move is too soft. i still like black globally but im nervous he might try something slick so im staying on guard! :rambo:

here are some thoughts on this position in variations

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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 4 . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . 7 6 8 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 5 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 4 . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . a 8 0 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 5 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 7 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

:study:

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:28 pm
by Puppycakes
I would have instinctually played this here. Also, I probably wouldn't have slid into the corner as white. I probably would have jumped out.
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:35 pm
by Celebrir
Puppycakes wrote:
I would have instinctually played this here. Also, I probably wouldn't have slid into the corner as white. I probably would have jumped out.
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I agree that jumpoing out seems to be the best for W. Even now I would have tried to jump out.

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[go]$$Wcm1 Variation
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . W . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 2 . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . 3 , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If B "punishes" that W doesn't saved :wc: W gets another move to reduce B's influence. Seems better than the game for me.

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:05 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Riders on the storm ...

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:28 pm
by 1986
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

now this group is enclosed
lets see
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . 9 8 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

a&b are cutting points that i can easily just connect to saftey on either side and i will be ok :study:

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:13 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . 8 . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I'm alive on the right. Even if I'm not, I need to tenuki now.

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:54 pm
by 1986
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

ok so i had 3 choice of where to play a,b&c
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . c . . . a . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . 8 . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

my first thought was (c) because his stone are not connected and it looked like a overplay
then i was thinking (a) just to kill all hope of doing something on the top-side, but all of a sudden i could hear yilun yang saying inside weak group move out! so i choose (b), he still needs to connect his floating stone somewhere and my inside weak group still has plenty of time to get stabel, i lost a big group on the bottom but im not letting up i must stay FOCUSED :rambo: every move counts!

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:55 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . 0 . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Need to work on limiting him in the center now.

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:11 am
by 1986
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[go]$$Bcm100 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . 1 , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i had to dig deep to find this move :study: & im praying its not a mistake! :-|

my inside weak group is still a inside weak group but i cant have this guy runnning around like crazy in the center :twisted:

its a Global move to say the least, basically it serves as a pivot point to keep building my moyo, im thick all around and if i can solidify this area, i can grab some easy points

here are some thoughts in sgf form.
its kinda random IMO but im just trying to find out whats his goal and how can i stop it in its tracks so bear with me, and its a good way to show u guys how i plan to use this move, but its alot of ways to play so thats why i put it in sgf format just to make it easy on the both of us :lol: .

i think i will play with the stones some more & hopefully find some better variations :cool:


Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:03 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm100 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O 2 . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want to push into the center as far as I can.

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:40 am
by 1986
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[go]$$Bcm100 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . X 3 . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i like this variation

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[go]$$Bcm100 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O 8 9 . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . 4 X 3 . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 6 5 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


it builds a nice wall and blocks off alot of points
but u know guys its hard to predict this middle game battle
so i will let him figure out what he is going to do
and i will just take my time and try to find balance and counter globally
:cool:

but as for this nobi, it stregthens my single stone and keeps me running ahead toward the center, its calm yet effective

ok its time for next hand

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:51 am
by Celebrir
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm100 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . b . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O a . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Wouldn't the hane at 'a' be more effective here ? It seems like black can handle the cut and it would have erased the option to jump to 'b' for W which looks good now.

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:51 am
by Marcus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm100 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Reduce!

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:37 pm
by 1986
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm100 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . 5 X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Imma start calling this guy Unpredicatable Marcus,
why didn't i see the knights move i know the proverb use knights move to jump ahead *come on me FOCUS!*
i like his move...
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm100 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O . . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . a . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X c O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . b 5 X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i think this is the biggest play for me right now, its slow and solid and can help me get my inside weak group break-out and it kills a direction for white to run to for saftey because his group is still light with no eyes...
now he has to run to (a) before I get there
he might go for the b-c cut
but whatever he does im comming for him
:rambo: the x's and o's look like stones to me :rambo: