[go]$$Bcm81 W:0 B:0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X | $$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This bend looks ultra stabilising for my group if he ignores it, and a useful launching platform into the middle if he responds. It also prevents Black from making too many points in this area. I'm trying to keep open a number of further options to reduce his position from different angles.
Re: #158 - topazg vs speedchase
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:59 am
by speedchase
$$Bcm81 W:0 B:0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X | $$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm81 W:0 B:0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X | $$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I was already a bit worried about this group and side generally, so I'll reinforce here. I think I've probably done sufficient damage to the middle for it to be quite hard for Black to build a large number of points, and I still have plenty of useful endgame I think.
Re: #158 - topazg vs speedchase
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:36 pm
by speedchase
$$Bcm81 W:0 B:0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X | $$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm81 W:0 B:0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X | $$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . 8 7 . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
That's nice, he's fixed my left side aji for me
Re: #158 - topazg vs speedchase
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:25 pm
by speedchase
I resign. Thank you very much for the game.
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:20 pm
by EdLee
speedchase wrote:I resign. Thank you very much for the game.
May I ask why?
Re: #158 - topazg vs speedchase
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:24 am
by topazg
Thanks very much to you too
Re:
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:10 pm
by speedchase
EdLee wrote:May I ask why?
I counted, and it seems to me like even with the most generous biasing in my favor, not to mention completely ignoring the fact that some of my groups are unsettled leaves me 10-20 points behind. I could be wrong though...
Re: #158 - topazg vs speedchase
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:24 pm
by speedchase
Quick Question: was I hallucinating majorly, or does this work? No one really mentioned it in the comments
$$Bcm61 W:0 B:0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , X . . . . , . . X . X , O . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X | $$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm61 W:0 B:0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , X . . . . , . . X . X , O . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X | $$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Hmmm, I actually didn't even look at it. I think part of my issue is I figured I needed to be very careful with the thin-ness on the left, whilst you have the cut at "a" below I was mostly aiming to seal you in rather than kill outright, and then perhaps defend the corner in sente later.
$$Bcm61 W:0 B:0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , X . . . . , . . X . X , O . . | $$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . a O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X | $$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm61 W:0 B:0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . 9 O . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 8 7 , X . . . . , . . X . X , O . . | $$ | . 6 5 . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . 3 O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | 4 1 O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X | $$ | . 2 O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Good for Black?
I'm not saying what I played was any better, and looking at it, your move does look probably more dangerous (or, at least, more advantageous even if it doesn't kill), I just hadn't considered it really.
