Life In 19x19

I think I have to change this one, too... :/

We are gonna run out, eek.

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[go]$$Bcm29 Move 28 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 Corrections: B=6, W=4
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hurts so much...

Also that white stone on K16 is a garbage stone (single stone plastered against stronger group = garbage). Moving with a garbage stone is almost always a terrible idea: now you have two garbage stones.

See my prior (now edited) post... I'm pretty sure this is worth a correction. I'm not even sure our group would live if I don't change it.

I'm hesitant about this move, I don't like that I ended on gote here and would much rather play a move on the left. However, everytime I look at it this moves seems the difference between great thickness vs White making shape with this cutting group and maybe even gaining some influence from attacking me. I hope I am not making a slow move.

I really don't like this move, which means it must be good.

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[go]$$Wcm30
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[go]$$Wcm30
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[go]$$Wcm30
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I don't see any way to keep the black group separated while staying strong enough to still attack it.
I need to think this over more, so Daniel doesn't have to make a correction.

http://senseis.xmp.net/?Kikashi wrote:Kikashi, a Japanese go term adopted into English, is a sente move that produces a certain additional effect. Because it has done its work, it can normally be freely abandoned unless it is part of a much larger chain or group...

As long as Phelan plays something that requires some sort of response I probably won't correct it. I hope he doesn't continue locally, though, as that would pretty much ruin the point of the forcing move at all. If you play it out right now it's very unlikely to work. The idea is to leave it for later.

I don't see any other moves at this point... and tenuki does not seem like an option. Hope I'm doing the right thing.

I know I said I wouldn't change it. But I get the idea that Phelan will just keep on playing in this area. I won't be able to let him play five moves here, as each one will just be making our grave larger. So I guess I will stop this right now.

I'm glad Phelan posted his game in another thread. Judging from that game it seems I will be wanting to make a lot of corrections. This is not good, we're already way low. Also I think I slightly prefer black on this board. It seems clear we will run out. So the question is, do I accept bad moves in hopes of preventing a terrible one later? How do I know when a move is bad enough to be worth changing?

I'm changing this one in hopes of preventing a whole sequence of bad moves...

I picked the move I did because it will hopefully let us go a few moves without a correction. Also I want to limit black's framework. I think if we end up needing to invade it later we won't have the corrections to pull it off. Hopefully the board will simplify a bit and we can get back a correction.

I think that Daniel was correct to readjust white's latest move. Aphelion played the perfect shape move for the position, and the best that white can do is leave them for ko threats.

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[go]$$Wc black dies here
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Also, trying to get out like this doesn't really work either:

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White is pushing the cart before the horse. 'A' and 'b' are miai. If white survives at all, it will be a very few points, in gote, while black gets a massive wall.

With the strength I have up top the only real options I considered were the two close pincers. Didn't pincer low because I didn't like this sequence:

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[go]$$Bcm31 Move 31 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 Corrections: B=6, W=2
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My goal is for White to run out or live small, not to allow him to settle so comfortably.

I'll probably play this, it's my first instinct, but it's late and I want to sleep on it.

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[go]$$Wcm32 First instinct
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My first instinct still feels like the best.

I also considered the moves below:

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[go]$$Bcm31 Didn't like these as much
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[go]$$bcm33 Move 33 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 Corrections: B=6, W=2
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I don't see an alternative to this.