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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:29 pm
by Pippen
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I think a two-point jump here is better, even if riskier, to get the split stone involved more or at least to con black into thinking it could. My one and only true friend - KGS-SE - says that White is leading by 39 which means the balance is alright (or not at all)^^. The potential cap of my split stone in the next move worries me though. If it's played, I may need some advice^^. I have marked the interesting points for white in the immediate future. Agreed? Do you see more?
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:22 pm
by Solomon
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Personally, I think W's last move was an overplay. The only two possibilities in my head for B were 'a' and 'b', both of which handle the potential weak point at 'c' (although 'a' is more robust; just felt too slow imo):
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:30 pm
by Loons
@Pippen
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:45 pm
by Pippen
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Flexible move to probe black and to prepare an invasion on the lower side. What's your opinion about 'a' instead?
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:57 pm
by Bill Spight
Pippen wrote: $$W
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I think a two-point jump here is better, even if riskier, to get the split stone involved more or at least to con black into thinking it could.
Interesting play. It calls to both of White's weak stones (
). It is thin, and Black does not want to strengthen it.
My one and only true friend - KGS-SE - says that White is leading by 39 which means the balance is alright (or not at all)^^.
Ah! The KGS Score Estimator, I presume. OC, 39 pts. is way off. My estimator, which assumes that the White stone on the right side is immortal, thinks that White is 5 pts. ahead. Which means that White is a bit behind.
$$W
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to run? That would be nice.
No, Pippen found another interesting play.
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:58 pm
by Bill Spight
Pippen wrote: $$B
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Flexible move to probe black and to prepare an invasion on the lower side. What's your opinion about 'a' instead?
I think that "a" would lose the thread.
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:02 pm
by shapenaji
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:22 pm
by Bill Spight
That was my first thought.
Edit:
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The attachment (
) would have been too painful, for one thing.
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:00 pm
by Loons
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:52 pm
by Pippen
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I do not want to commit now, so the marked stone is another light move.
@bill: When you commented earlier that 'a' would "lose the thread"...did you mean that 'a' was not a good move?
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:31 pm
by yoyoma
It's an interesting game. I find myself confused how to play against a bunch of light moves like what white has.
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:47 pm
by Bill Spight
Pippen wrote: @bill: When you commented earlier that 'a' would "lose the thread"...did you mean that 'a' was not a good move?
I meant that I think that it is inconsistent. I don't think that you can regard the previous exchange as kikashi, and if you don't follow through it can become a losing sente.
OC, that could be because it is a losing sente, anyway, or another move could be at fault, so that it would be best to abandon the right side and cut your losses.
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:12 pm
by Bill Spight
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I think that the most desirable plan, now, would be to push through between the
stones and attack both White groups. The danger is to end up with floating stones that get attacked themselves, while White makes territory. It would also be desirable to prevent White
, which would make good shape with previous White stones.
The least desirable plan would be to capture the stone on the right side. I venture than none of us would do so.
This is a play that takes a good bit of thought.
Edit: Unhidden.
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:17 pm
by Solomon
Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:42 pm
by Loons
). It is thin, and Black does not want to strengthen it.
protects the corner. Will it induce 
to run? That would be nice. 
, which would make good shape with previous White stones.