Hahn pointing system
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Re: Hahn pointing system
A pro who knows that he'll lose by a few points will go all out at a crucial stage, possibly losing a group. In a system where close losses are rewarded more than big losses, the incentive will be much smaller. So I'd think that the system leads to less spectacular games, not more.
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Re: Hahn pointing system
That is one of my objections to this perversion. To have a guaranteed loss by a small margin to be preferable to going all out for a win is just anathema to my way of thinking. Imagine the situation of needing needing a birdie on the 18th hole of the US Open to win but deciding that the risk is too great so you settle for a bogie to guarantee second place. I don't think so.Knotwilg wrote:A pro who knows that he'll lose by a few points will go all out at a crucial stage, possibly losing a group. In a system where close losses are rewarded more than big losses, the incentive will be much smaller. So I'd think that the system leads to less spectacular games, not more.
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Bill Spight
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Re: Hahn pointing system
In the system that I lay out above, suppose that someone faces a small loss of 3.5 points of territory and risks around 15 points of territory to gain around 5 points of territory. In converted points that is a risk of 2-3 points to gain 5-6 points: a good bet.DrStraw wrote:That is one of my objections to this perversion. To have a guaranteed loss by a small margin to be preferable to going all out for a win is just anathema to my way of thinking. Imagine the situation of needing needing a birdie on the 18th hole of the US Open to win but deciding that the risk is too great so you settle for a bogie to guarantee second place. I don't think so.Knotwilg wrote:A pro who knows that he'll lose by a few points will go all out at a crucial stage, possibly losing a group. In a system where close losses are rewarded more than big losses, the incentive will be much smaller. So I'd think that the system leads to less spectacular games, not more.
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Re: Hahn pointing system
What about the situation where a bogie on the final hole wins the tournament (or preserves a lead, in an earlier round)? Would any professional go for the birdie, if it carries more risk of ultimate loss? Golf sounds rather analogous to Hahn Go to me. Each hole has a margin of victory, not a simple win/loss result, and the final winner is decided by the sum of the marginal scores.DrStraw wrote:Imagine the situation of needing needing a birdie on the 18th hole of the US Open to win but deciding that the risk is too great so you settle for a bogie to guarantee second place. I don't think so.