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Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:49 am
by Bill Spight
tapir wrote:
mitsun wrote:The sequence :w8: to :w14: is really bad. The two W stones at K17 and O17 have probably lost half a stone of combined efficiency, as Bill suggests. I am pretty sure that if both players were professional, the game would already be decided.
Players aren't professionals.
My opponents aren't pros, so it's OK if I make a few 10 kyu moves. Right?
I wonder about W12, I probably would push a bit longer (gaining points in the corner because disabling Black moves there) instead of jumping ahead with W12 and use the stone already in place at 10-3 to finally "get ahead".
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[go]$$W Sth. like this (similar to game but no ''a'')
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a 1 3 5 7 . 9 O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , 2 4 6 8 . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
More like this.
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[go]$$W After W5 the corner is alive
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 5 . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , 2 4 6 . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
:w7: is a wedge on the left side.

Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:19 am
by tapir
My point: In the given circumstances W12 appears to be a mistake in itself, in other words a move not worthy of an aspiring player such as pippen, regardless of other mistakes earlier and later.

Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:45 pm
by zinger
The sequence 30-32-34 feels pretty optimistic. If black plays 35 at G7, white seems likely to be swallowed whole.