Using Joseki to respond to non-joseki

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Re: Using Joseki to respond to non-joseki

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This seems more like an examination of miai than something specific to joseki, though joseki provide clear examples for it. The key is to recognize that there are miai so that one can reasonably expect a locally decent result.

As an aside, I suspect that one of the reasons a lot of DDKs and other kyu players have trouble with pincer joseki is that they don't recognize the miai options and double down on the original non-pincer strategy, which results in the opponent getting both of them.
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Re: Using Joseki to respond to non-joseki

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skydyr wrote:This seems more like an examination of miai than something specific to joseki, though joseki provide clear examples for it. The key is to recognize that there are miai so that one can reasonably expect a locally decent result.

As an aside, I suspect that one of the reasons a lot of DDKs and other kyu players have trouble with pincer joseki is that they don't recognize the miai options and double down on the original non-pincer strategy, which results in the opponent getting both of them.
This clarifies what I was looking at a lot in my mind. So what I was thinking about was trying to extract miai from a joseki step.
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