Life In 19x19

There can be an infinity of reasons, but there is not a single piece of evidence.

Pippen wrote:[..]

Now, I'd appreciate if one doesn't call stuff like that conspiracy theories, because nobody here claims it.

TBH, to my ears it sounds like yet another of these “I’m not saying XY but …” statements after which it is clear that XY is meant.

Bonobo wrote:TBH, to my ears it sounds like yet another of these “I’m not saying XY but …” statements after which it is clear that XY is meant.

At least not from me^^. There is not a single piece of evidence against Sedol, Hui oder Deepmind. It's just a mere possibility to keep one critical.

Pippen wrote:
He could have won game 1 and game 5 relatively easy with precise game. That'd have made it 3-2 overall.

I think you say this based on the live commentaries by pros.
As far as I know, the post-mortem commentaries agree that there was no point in any game (except game 4) where Lee could have won for sure.

pookpooi wrote:The worst conspiracy theory I've seen is 'I think my $80 CrazyStone 2012 coupled with 1,200 CPUs will play just about the same level as AlphaGo'

The worst I have ever seen is: There are no conspiracies.

EdLee wrote:To me, such allegations are extremely ignorant, myopic, and insulting to the computer team.

Do you only feel like that about suspicions against computer teams only, or against anybody in general?

At this point, creating a superhuman go player is easier than cheating with million of people watching closely.

Jhyn wrote:
$1,000,000 were not at stake on Google's side, since they pledged to give them to charity in the case of an AlphaGo victory. Google payed this sum in order to set up the match; they were not playing for money. I would even suggest that this was a voluntary choice from them to remove what people could perceive as an incentive to cheat.

I doubt that there is any conspiracy going on, but it's probably better for Google in terms of taxes if Google gives $1,000,000 to charity vs. giving it to Lee Sedol. When companies give to charities, they usually get some pretty nice tax breaks.

I don't even understand my own taxes that well, though, so I may be missing something.

pookpooi wrote:At this point, creating a superhuman go player is easier than cheating with million of people watching closely.

Cheating would probably not be that hard, but very unlikely that it's the case, considering the portrayed personalities of those involved.

Bantari wrote:Do you only feel like that about suspicions against computer teams only, or against anybody in general?

We're discussing DM and DB; just them specifcally.

Otherwise, it's case by case; no one-size-fit-all.
How about you ? And why do you ask ?

Bonobo wrote:TBH, to my ears it sounds like yet another of these “I’m not saying XY but …” statements after which it is clear that XY is meant.

Isn't it the figure of speech called "apophasis" ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophasis

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