Life In 19x19

pookpooi wrote: most pro before lee sedol match think lee sedol will win, but this is just their prediction, not lamenting
but one day during the match, I roam the internet and found janice kim 3p facebook, she said she don't want AI to win because go is the queen of the game and AI will make it unpure. after alphago lost in game 4 she post demis hassabis sad face and said something like lol you said you just want to test alphago but why you're sad when it lost, this is from my memory though cause after that most of her status go private.
edit: found it https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

Of course, both sides wanted to win. Probably many pros wanted "the pro side" to win, and the computer programmers obviously wanted AlphaGo to win. And probably to some pros, it's a pity that LSD lost.

But after loss, what is important is the action that you take. I'm sure many pros see this higher level of go as a challenge, and something that they can learn from. That's a good way to adapt to loss, and I think professionals are used to that attitude (i.e. learning from their losses).

It's the same as if you play a game of go yourself. You can lament over why your opponent was stronger than you, but what makes you stronger is to acknowledge your shortcomings, and improve.

And that's exactly the attitude that I believe most pros have. It was sad to lose, but AlphaGo will push them to the next level.

oren wrote:

Sneegurd wrote:I like the Go community professional lamenting.

I've seen very few in the professional community lamenting. It's mostly the amateurs.

Many pros are very interested to see how things shape up.

Indeed, I haven't seen much sour grapes or lamenting from pros (though I haven't been to bars with them, who knows what they say there, maybe ez4u has some Japanese perspective). During the match, game 3 I think it was, the Chinese pro commentators such as Gu Li were calling it AlphaGo "sensei AlphaGo", or laozhe or whatever the Chinese honorific for teacher is. They recognised its excellent play and wanted to learn from it. Li Zhe's posts had a similar attitude.