$$ White to connect at a or b? How can I miss something like this :-)
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . O X O O . O . O X X X X |
$$ | . X O . O O O X X X X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O X O X O X O O . O X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X O X X X . X . . . O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O . X X X X X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O X X X . O X O X O O X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O a O O X X O X . O X X X . |
$$ | . O X . X O . X b O O O X . O . O X . |
$$ | O X X X X O . X . O X X X X O , O O . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . X O O X . O . O O . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O X . O X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . O O . O O X X O O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O . O O X X X X |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O X . O . X O . . . |
$$ | O O X O O O O O . , X . . O X O O O X |
$$ | O X X X O X X O X O X . X X X X O X . |
$$ | X X . X X . X X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$ White to connect at a or b? How can I miss something like this :-)
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . O X O O . O . O X X X X |
$$ | . X O . O O O X X X X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O X O X O X O O . O X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X O X X X . X . . . O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O . X X X X X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O X X X . O X O X O O X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O a O O X X O X . O X X X . |
$$ | . O X . X O . X b O O O X . O . O X . |
$$ | O X X X X O . X . O X X X X O , O O . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . X O O X . O . O O . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O X . O X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . O O . O O X X O O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O . O O X X X X |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O X . O . X O . . . |
$$ | O O X O O O O O . , X . . O X O O O X |
$$ | O X X X O X X O X O X . X X X X O X . |
$$ | X X . X X . X X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: A way to improve reading skills
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:28 pm
by Gomoto
$$ Black to play or not to play at a? What about the ladder (geta)?
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . a X X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . O . X O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$ Just for illustration purposes, cut anywhere you like :-)
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X O M . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O M . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O M . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . M O X X O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B O X X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . M O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . O . X O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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White will not go for the ladder if he does not make the same reading mistake as well
Re: A way to improve reading skills
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:56 pm
by Fedya
Gomoto wrote:
$$ White to connect at a or b? How can I miss something like this :-)
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . O X O O . O . O X X X X |
$$ | . X O . O O O X X X X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O X O X O X O O . O X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X O X X X . X . . . O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O . X X X X X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O X X X . O X O X O O X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O a O O X X O X . O X X X . |
$$ | . O X . X O . X b O O O X . O . O X . |
$$ | O X X X X O . X . O X X X X O , O O . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . X O O X . O . O O . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O X . O X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . O O . O O X X O O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O . O O X X X X |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O X . O . X O . . . |
$$ | O O X O O O O O . , X . . O X O O O X |
$$ | O X X X O X X O X O X . X X X X O X . |
$$ | X X . X X . X X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$ White to connect at a or b? How can I miss something like this :-)
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . O X O O . O . O X X X X |
$$ | . X O . O O O X X X X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O X O X O X O O . O X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X O X X X . X . . . O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O . X X X X X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . X O O X X X . O X O X O O X . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O a O O X X O X . O X X X . |
$$ | . O X . X O . X b O O O X . O . O X . |
$$ | O X X X X O . X . O X X X X O , O O . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . X O O X . O . O O . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O X . O X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . O O . O O X X O O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O . O O X X X X |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O X . O . X O . . . |
$$ | O O X O O O O O . , X . . O X O O O X |
$$ | O X X X O X X O X O X . X X X X O X . |
$$ | X X . X X . X X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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White should play at a, because allowing Black to play there gives him another threat.
$$Wc White to play. Move a or b? Chicken out or not?
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . X X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X O . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . a X . . X O O . . X O O X O . O . |
$$ | . . O b O . X . . . . X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X O O . . X O O O O X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . . . . X . O . O X . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . O . X . X O . . . . . |
$$ | O O X , X O O O . O X O . X X X X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X X X X X X X . O X . X . |
$$ | O X X . X X O . . O . . O X . O X O . |
$$ | O X X X . X O X X X O O O O O O . O . |
$$ | O X . X X O . O O O O X O . X X O . O |
$$ | . O O . X O O O O X . X X O O X X O O |
$$ | O O X X O O O X X X . . . X X X . X O |
$$ | X X . X X O . O . . X . . . . X . X X |
$$ | . . . X . X O . O O X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Wc White to play. Move a or b? Chicken out or not?
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . X X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X O . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . a X . . X O O . . X O O X O . O . |
$$ | . . O b O . X . . . . X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X O O . . X O O O O X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . . . . X . O . O X . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . O . X . X O . . . . . |
$$ | O O X , X O O O . O X O . X X X X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X X X X X X X . O X . X . |
$$ | O X X . X X O . . O . . O X . O X O . |
$$ | O X X X . X O X X X O O O O O O . O . |
$$ | O X . X X O . O O O O X O . X X O . O |
$$ | . O O . X O O O O X . X X O O X X O O |
$$ | O O X X O O O X X X . . . X X X . X O |
$$ | X X . X X O . O . . X . . . . X . X X |
$$ | . . . X . X O . O O X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:02 pm
by EdLee
$$W
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . X X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X O . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O O . . X O O X O . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . . X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X O O . . X O O O O X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . . . . X . O . O X . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . O . X . X O . . . . . |
$$ | O O X , X O O O . O X O . X X X X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X X X X X X X . O X . X . |
$$ | O X X . X X O . . O . . O X . O X O . |
$$ | O X X X . X O X X X O O O O O O . O . |
$$ | O X . X X O . O O O O X O . X X O . O |
$$ | . O O . X O O O O X . X X O O X X O O |
$$ | O O X X O O O X X X . . . X X X . X O |
$$ | X X . X X O . O . . X . . . . X . X X |
$$ | . . . X . X O . O O X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$W
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . X X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X O . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O O . . X O O X O . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . . X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X O O . . X O O O O X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . . . . X . O . O X . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . O . X . X O . . . . . |
$$ | O O X , X O O O . O X O . X X X X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X X X X X X X . O X . X . |
$$ | O X X . X X O . . O . . O X . O X O . |
$$ | O X X X . X O X X X O O O O O O . O . |
$$ | O X . X X O . O O O O X O . X X O . O |
$$ | . O O . X O O O O X . X X O O X X O O |
$$ | O O X X O O O X X X . . . X X X . X O |
$$ | X X . X X O . O . . X . . . . X . X X |
$$ | . . . X . X O . O O X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$W
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . X X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X O . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . 7 5 O 4 X . X O O . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . 6 2 X 3 . X O O . . X O O X O . O . |
$$ | . . O 1 O . X . . . . X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X O O . . X O O O O X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . . . . X . O . O X . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . O . X . X O . . . . . |
$$ | O O X , X O O O . O X O . X X X X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X X X X X X X . O X . X . |
$$ | O X X . X X O . . O . . O X . O X O . |
$$ | O X X X . X O X X X O O O O O O . O . |
$$ | O X . X X O . O O O O X O . X X O . O |
$$ | . O O . X O O O O X . X X O O X X O O |
$$ | O O X X O O O X X X . . . X X X . X O |
$$ | X X . X X O . O . . X . . . . X . X X |
$$ | . . . X . X O . O O X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$W
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . X X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X O . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . 7 5 O 4 X . X O O . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . 6 2 X 3 . X O O . . X O O X O . O . |
$$ | . . O 1 O . X . . . . X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X O O . . X O O O O X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . . . . X . O . O X . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . O . X . X O . . . . . |
$$ | O O X , X O O O . O X O . X X X X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X X X X X X X . O X . X . |
$$ | O X X . X X O . . O . . O X . O X O . |
$$ | O X X X . X O X X X O O O O O O . O . |
$$ | O X . X X O . O O O O X O . X X O . O |
$$ | . O O . X O O O O X . X X O O X X O O |
$$ | O O X X O O O X X X . . . X X X . X O |
$$ | X X . X X O . O . . X . . . . X . X X |
$$ | . . . X . X O . O O X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: A way to improve reading skills
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:31 pm
by Gomoto
Thanks EdLee for your variation.
$$W White 1 at b is the correct move. This is a possible black answer.
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$$ | . . . . 7 3 5 6 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O 2 O 4 X X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X O . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O O . . X O O X O . O 8 |
$$ | . . O 1 O . X . . . . X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X O O . . X O O O O X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . . . . X . O . O X . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . O . X . X O . . . . . |
$$ | O O X , X O O O . O X O . X X X X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X X X X X X X . O X . X . |
$$ | O X X . X X O . . O . . O X . O X O . |
$$ | O X X X . X O X X X O O O O O O . O . |
$$ | O X . X X O . O O O O X O . X X O . O |
$$ | . O O . X O O O O X . X X O O X X O O |
$$ | O O X X O O O X X X . . . X X X . X O |
$$ | X X . X X O . O . . X . . . . X . X X |
$$ | . . . X . X O . O O X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$W White 1 at b is the correct move. This is a possible black answer.
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$$ | . . . . 7 3 5 6 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O 2 O 4 X X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X O . O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O O . . X O O X O . O 8 |
$$ | . . O 1 O . X . . . . X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X O O . . X O O O O X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X . . . . . X . O . O X . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . O . X . X O . . . . . |
$$ | O O X , X O O O . O X O . X X X X X . |
$$ | . O O X . . X X X X X X X . O X . X . |
$$ | O X X . X X O . . O . . O X . O X O . |
$$ | O X X X . X O X X X O O O O O O . O . |
$$ | O X . X X O . O O O O X O . X X O . O |
$$ | . O O . X O O O O X . X X O O X X O O |
$$ | O O X X O O O X X X . . . X X X . X O |
$$ | X X . X X O . O . . X . . . . X . X X |
$$ | . . . X . X O . O O X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Read, read read! I knew the better alternative move for 49 from a similar Joseki. But I was to lazy to read it out and chickened out again.
I did not spot the critical weakness at H17 and missed a necessary reinforcing move.
Re: A way to improve reading skills
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:51 am
by Gomoto
Many times before I thought I played a reasonable game only to realize later how flawed it was indeed.
This is the first of my games where I am quite contend with my moves even after the review (And I played a bunch of games already ). There are some doubtful plays on my side (For expample move 71 much too small), but I did not find any critical mistakes for black in this one.