Yup... but have you tried playing a game on one? I'm hoping for a magnified view and/or a confirmation button because I keep mis-tapping.EdLee wrote:iPhones, too, and other small-screen devices!I want the HTML5 clients to work (especially since I have an iPad!).
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Just tried using this today, it is AWESOME. Imagine if Tygem / FOX / Oro also had a mobile friendly client like this... (one can only dream).
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KGS is generally my preferred server, and this interface takes away any desire to play somewhere else when I'm on my iPad. I really, really like the interface. Thanks to the developer!
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It looks like this is going to get solved really soon now; wms just replied to Justin and seems to be agreeing to set up a gokgs.com subdomain for ShinKGS' JSON gateway, so that bans will be for the individual client IP rather than the entire ShinKGS proxy. Problem solvedNyanjilla wrote:*sigh*
Sorry about this... it's the same as when GoUniverse started and it had a single IP address, like ShinKGS does at the moment. Someone gets booted on KGS, then tries to log in with the same name through ShinKGS, and so gets autobooted. But that puts the sole IP address of ShinKGS into KGS' Boot-On-Login list, so anyone else trying to log in also gets booted. A smart boot-ee would use a new name and KGS wouldn't notice.
ShinKGS is still in beta, so it is not yet a finished product. I've been told that it will be upgraded to remove this problem Real Soon Now (I'm using that phrase a lot recently...) so troublemakers can't make use of this loophole. Until then, if you can't log in, write to the admin box (yeah, I know...) or try to contact a gold-star offline. I look at the admin log fairly regularly to see if this has happened (a long list of login attempts by a large number of usernames withint a few minutes does tend to stand out), but I don't hover over that log constantly.
Again: Sorry about this. I want the HTML5 clients to work (especially since I have an iPad!).
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Hi all. Sorry for slow response to this; I've been out of town the last week.
I'm in communication with the KGS team about solving the proxy/banning issue. Hopefully that will get fixed soon.
Re magnifying on iPhone - just use the browser's regular pinch zoom. I specifically designed it to work with that rather than trying to reimplement a magnify feature. I've played many 19x19 games that way on my iPhone and I think it works quite well. Eventually I may implement a board-only zoom, but it's low priority.
I'm keeping track of planned improvements and fixes on GitHub: see https://github.com/jkk/shinkgs/projects/1 and https://github.com/jkk/shinkgs/issues. I've gotten a few pull requests already, which I'm excited about.
EdLee - could you send me more info or submit a GitHub issue with info about the glitch you're seeing on iPad?
I'm in communication with the KGS team about solving the proxy/banning issue. Hopefully that will get fixed soon.
Re magnifying on iPhone - just use the browser's regular pinch zoom. I specifically designed it to work with that rather than trying to reimplement a magnify feature. I've played many 19x19 games that way on my iPhone and I think it works quite well. Eventually I may implement a board-only zoom, but it's low priority.
I'm keeping track of planned improvements and fixes on GitHub: see https://github.com/jkk/shinkgs/projects/1 and https://github.com/jkk/shinkgs/issues. I've gotten a few pull requests already, which I'm excited about.
EdLee - could you send me more info or submit a GitHub issue with info about the glitch you're seeing on iPad?
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You're not the first to miss that possibility. Most web apps try their best to prevent the user from doing it. I'm wondering if there's an easy way to tell the user about it - a quick instructional overlay, or tooltip, or something...Nyanjilla wrote:..."use the browser's regular pinch zoom"
Duh! of course!
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There have been a few times recently where I was not able to watch games on Shin KGS. The first time it happened was during the AlphaGo - Ke Jie games. My guess was that the large amount of traffic caused the problem. Then it happened again today when I tried to watch a game from the KIDO cup. Has anyone else observed this?
Also: On my phone, Shin KGS works on one browser (Ghostery) but not on the other (UC Browser). Just thought I'd mention it.
Also: On my phone, Shin KGS works on one browser (Ghostery) but not on the other (UC Browser). Just thought I'd mention it.
Patience, grasshopper.
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Sorry about that - there's a bug that prevents demo games from opening. It's fixed in the latest development version. If you are feeling adventurous, you can try that here: https://unstable.shinkgs.com/ (might not work in Safari).daal wrote:There have been a few times recently where I was not able to watch games on Shin KGS. The first time it happened was during the AlphaGo - Ke Jie games. My guess was that the large amount of traffic caused the problem. Then it happened again today when I tried to watch a game from the KIDO cup. Has anyone else observed this?
Also: On my phone, Shin KGS works on one browser (Ghostery) but not on the other (UC Browser). Just thought I'd mention it.
I'm not familiar with UC Browser. I'll look into supporting it.
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Is this still being worked on? I'm so thankful for it, since I do 90% of my Go playing on iPad or iPhone. Two things that would really make this a lot more useable for me would be a move confirmation system, and sound. I know that you can pinch zoom, but that is a lot of extra movement in a fast paced game compared to the way it is on the IGS client. I love the way that is handled on iPad - you touch to place the stone, then touch the stone again to confirm. Auto zoom would be great for the phone - touch once to zoom in, touch again to place stone. As for sounds, that is really helpful because if I'm studying one area of the board during my opponents move, and he/she plays somewhere else, I don't always notice right away. Again, would be great for games when you're under time pressure. For these two reasons I prefer the IGS client for iDevices at the moment, but I think with these two changes ShinKGS would be my first preference. Thanks so much for your work!!!
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Thanks for your feedback @mvk20! Shin is alive, but moving slowly. I have other priorities taking up my attention at the moment. I expect there will be spurts of development over the next few months. Sound effects and "confirm move" UI for mobile/tablet are high up on the list.
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Thanks! I hope my post didn't sound too impatient or ungrateful. I was aiming for a combination of feedback and thanks, but sometimes tone gets lost in post like this. I know that this is basically volunteer work and I'm super excited to have the ability to play KGS on my iDevices - thanks again for all of your hard work!
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Not at all! I appreciate the positive feedback (and patience!) 



