Life In 19x19

Okay, we've got the updates I was looking for, so here's the information.

To start off, a couple of assumptions:
Unless specifically called out, I assumed komi of 6.5 for even games, and 0.5 for handicap games

Finished Malkovich Games
#4 - sumiyaka vs kex; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 64
#9 - Marcus vs Hummingbird Cyborg; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 10; Comment: Resigned in Malkovich registration thread (http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... 137#p26137)
#19 - Dusk Eagle vs Magicwand; H: 2; Komi: 0; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 76
#20 - xDragon vs Perception; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 49
#21 - wms vs Magicwand; H: 2; Komi: 0; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 170
#22 - zinger vs Araban; H: 2; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 92
#23 - Loons vs dfan; H: 0; Komi: 0; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 57
#27 - Numsgil vs topazg; H: 0; Komi: -70; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 262
#28 - Marcus vs Shaddy; H: 0; Komi: -40.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 82
#32 - Kirby vs Magicwand; H: 0; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 200
#33 - zinger vs Magicwand; H: 2; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 256
#34 - Kirby vs Magicwand; H: 2; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 376
#35 - Kirby vs Magicwand; H: 3; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 226
#37 - Redundant vs Marcus; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 156
#38 - Laman vs Magicwand; H: 2; Komi: 0; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 205; Comment: Had to recreate diagram but didn't "play it out" - count should be close
#39 - Kirby vs Magicwand; H: 4; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 235
#40 - Kirby vs Chew Terr; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 73; Comment: Early finish
#44 - Magicwand vs Violence; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 158; Comment: Game 1, Best of 3
#45 - tj86430 vs emeraldemon; H: 0; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 133
#47 - Kirby vs Magicwand; H: 5; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 125
#48 - dfan vs Dusk Eagle; H: 0; Komi: 0; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 100
#49 - Violence vs Magicwand; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 258; Comment: Game 2, Best of 3; Series 1-1
#50 - Fwiffo vs Magicwand; H: 6; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 141
#51 - topazg vs Zwergesel; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 60; Comment: Open Malkovich
#52 - Dusk Eagle vs Kerby; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 107
#55 - The Pilgrim vs Kie; H: 0; Komi: -20; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 87; Comment: Early finish - RL concerns for Pilgrim - hope it turned out okay!
#56 - Magicwand vs Violence; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 402; Comment: Game 3, Best of 3
#57 - Chew Terr vs Fwiffo; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 115; Comment: Open Malkovich
#58 - k43r vs Kie; H: 0; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 92
#61 - Redundant vs Zwergesel; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 105
#66 - Chew Terr vs Shaddy; H: 0; Komi: -6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 229; Comment: Open Malkovich
#68 - Redundant vs Loons; H: 0; Komi: 7; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 58; Comment: 9x9, Game restarted after long hiatus
#73 - Hazushi vs rubin427; H: 2; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 52; Comment: Finished via KGS
#74 - emeraldemon vs Laman; H: 3; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 210
#76 - Csamurai vs Fwiffo; H: 0; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 115
#77 - DIV vs robinz; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 193
#79 - Marcus vs Chew Terr; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 68; Comment: Open Malkovich
#82 - Aphelion vs Numsgil; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 117
#84 - Dusk Eagle vs Laman; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 135
#86 - Jedo vs Magicwand; H: 4; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 149
#87 - Kayres vs ketchup; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 105
#89 - Koroviev vs Mnemonic; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 83
#90 - Csamurai vs Chew Terr; H: 0; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 95
#92 - Emerus vs Redundant; H: 2; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 150
#93 - topazg vs Magicwand; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 265
#94 - Aphelion vs Magicwand; H: 7; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 211
#98 - Araban vs Magicwand; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 304
#99 - Sevis vs topazg; H: 4; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 202; Comment: Semi-Open Malkovich
#101 - Emerus vs Magicwand; H: 4; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 213
#103 - topazg vs EdLee; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 202
#104 - Chew Terr vs Joaz Banbeck; H: 2; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 234
#105 - Mnemonic vs emerus; H: 0; Komi: -34.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 114
#106 - topazg vs Kirby; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 156
#108 - Puppycakes vs mw42; H: 0; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 101
#109 - Kirby vs Loons; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 147
#116 - emeraldemon vs Redundant; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 48; Comment: 9x9
#120 - Kirby vs Chew Terr; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 127
#? - mic vs Chew Terr; H: 2; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 58; Comment: Open Malkovich
#? - Kirby vs Magicwand; H: 5; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 226
#? - Kirby vs Magicwand; H: 4; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 224
#? - Kirby vs Magicwand; H: 3; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 289
#? - Kirby vs Magicwand; H: 3; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 211
#? - yithril vs Magicwand; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 226
#? - Kirby vs yithril; H: 3; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 112
#? - daniel_the_smith vs Magicwand; H: 3; Komi: 0.5; Result: Click to show; # of posts: 269

Zombie Malkovich Games ( Games in which no moves have been made for more than 30 days )
#24 - Araban vs Tabemasu; H: 0; Komi: 0; W move; # of posts: 112; Comment: Postponement or Resignation offered by Araban, no official response
#25 - mic vs Pogo; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; W move; # of posts: 63
#26 - Redundant vs Lute; H: 0; Komi: 0.5; W move; # of posts: 37; Comment: Lute hasn't logged on since Apr 27, 2010
#29 - Loons vs Magicwand; H: 6; Komi: 0.5; B move; # of posts: 15
#30 - Splatted vs Kirby; H: 0; Komi: 0; B move; # of posts: 22; Comment: Splatted hasn't logged on since Jul 26, 2010
#31 - padic vs Splatted; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; W move; # of posts: 30; Comment: Splatted hasn't logged on since Jul 26, 2010
#36 - Phelan vs walleye; H: 8; Komi: 0.5; B move; # of posts: 85
#42 - Joaz Banbeck vs Araban; H: 0; Komi: 0; W move; # of posts: 162
#53 - LovroKlc vs Kie; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; B move; # of posts: 54; Comment: Game originally postponed, LovroKlc returned but no response from Kie (who hasn't posted since Aug 06, 2010)
#60 - Marcus vs Zwergesel; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; W move; # of posts: 72
#62 - FlamingMetroidzd vs Kie; H: 3; Komi: 0.5; W move; # of posts: 44; Comment: Kie hasn't been seen since Aug 06, 2010 (no last logon information)
#63 - Numsgil vs Kerby; H: 0; Komi: -40; W move; # of posts: 120; Comment: Kerby hasn't logged on since Sep 28, 2010
#64 - Dusk Eagle vs Heartless; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; B move; # of posts: 28; Comment: Heartless hasn't logged on since Aug 17, 2010
#65 - Magicwand vs Kie; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; W move; # of posts: 56; Comment: Kie hasn't been seen since Aug 06, 2010 (no last logon information)
#67 - Shaddy vs Loons; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; W move; # of posts: 77
#70 - SinK vs Suji; H: 0; Komi: 7.5; W move; # of posts: 85
#71 - lloydv vs Aphelion; H: 3; Komi: 0.5; B move; # of posts: 44
#72 - Csamurai vs Hummingbird Cyborg; H: 2; Komi: 0.5; W move; # of posts: 30; Comment: Hummingbird Cyborg hasn't logged on since Sep 27, 2010
#78 - kokomi vs yithril; H: 7; Komi: 0.5; W move; # of posts: 36
#80 - Hazushi vs antone; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; W move; # of posts: 41; Comment: Open Malkovich
#81 - Menezes vs kokomi; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; B move; # of posts: 12
#83 - Menezes vs Hazushi; H: 0; Komi: 0; B move; # of posts: 20
#85 - Andd vs Magicwand; H: 0; Komi: -40; B move; # of posts: 75
#95 - balmung vs Aphelion; H: 0; Komi: 0; B move; # of posts: 150
#96 - mw42 vs Perception; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; W move; # of posts: 76; Comment: Perception hasn't logged on since Mar 18, 2011
#97 - Mark356 vs topazg; H: 0; Komi: -0.5; B move; # of posts: 67; Comment: Semi-Open Malkovich
#100 - jts vs tj86430; H: 2; Komi: 0.5; B move; # of posts: 75
#102 - Shaddy vs cloud; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; W move; # of posts: 112
#111 - mic vs Puppycakes; H: 4; Komi: 0.5; B move; # of posts: 30
#113 - Jordus vs Simba; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; W move; # of posts: 119
#117 - levanez vs Banaan; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; B move; # of posts: 59

Current Malkovich Games
#107 - Abydos1 vs emerus; H: 0; Komi: 6.5
#110 - Marcus vs Kirby; H: 0; Komi: 6.5
#112 - joppon vs Marcus; H: 0; Komi: 6.5
#114 - Violence vs NeoNemesis; H: 0; Komi: 6.5
#115 - robinz vs 1986; H: 0; Komi: 6.5
#118 - hailthorn vs Tryphon; H: 0; Komi: 6.5
#119 - Puppycakes vs parliament; H: 2; Komi: 0.5
#121 - Dusk Eagle vs mw42; H: 0; Komi: 6.5
#122 - Kirby vs Magicwand; H: 3; Komi: 0.5
#123 - perceval vs Tryphon; H: 0; Komi: 6.5
#124 - Fuego (Bot) vs Chew Terr; H: 0; Komi: 6.5; Comment: Fuego (Bot) playing via emeraldemon - 20 min / move
#125 - balmung vs Magicwand; H: 7; Komi: 0.5
#126 - Loons vs EdLee; H: 0; Komi: 6.5
#? - Violence vs yithril; H: 0; Komi: 6.5

Special Note:
I'm including post counts associated with the game threads so I wanted to make sure and point out that all games before #22 were started on GoDiscussions - just some thing to take into account when looking at the number of posts.

For all those that don't mind having the results spoiled and don't like clicking to see those results:


Also -- Chew or Joaz, since we've pretty much finished the discussion about what to display, we could probably move most of the extraneous posts to another "OBITS Discussion" thread to keep this one relatively clean.

schultz wrote:...

Also -- Chew or Joaz, since we've pretty much finished the discussion about what to display, we could probably move most of the extraneous posts to another "OBITS Discussion" thread to keep this one relatively clean.

Why not just copy all of your work from the previous post to your first post in this thread? Then the first post would be old GD results and the second post would be everything here on L19. All of the extraneous posts would be after the data.

Joaz Banbeck wrote:

schultz wrote:...

Also -- Chew or Joaz, since we've pretty much finished the discussion about what to display, we could probably move most of the extraneous posts to another "OBITS Discussion" thread to keep this one relatively clean.

Why not just copy all of your work from the previous post to your first post in this thread? Then the first post would be old GD results and the second post would be everything here on L19. All of the extraneous posts would be after the data.

Excellent idea. Already done.

That's awesome, schultz. Thank you.

I hope to god you wrote a script to do this...

mw42 wrote:That's awesome, schultz. Thank you.

I hope to god you wrote a script to do this...

Heh.

I thought about it, but because of the large inconsistencies in the data I ended up just doing it by hand. I would have ended up verifying the data for as long as it took me just to do it by hand.

I appreciate the positive comments!

Very nice list schultz!

Has been asked before maybe: is it possible to obtain these Malkovich games in SGF format? With the comments included that is, would love it to be able to view them offline.

Is this necroposting? It feels like it.

I notice this list is SLIGHTLY lacking in prompt maintenance, so that either means people don't care that much, or it was just forgotten.

Even before starting my own game, I've started reading the other ones, to get an idea of how to Malkovich. Since I'm going to read them anyway, I thought I could compile a small amount of data like the list once maintained by Schulz.

As bonus material, I can also make SGF of the game (I tend to copy it into an SGF so I can try out some things). I included links to the post where the move is made, to facilitate jumping into the middle of the comments. I don't know if it's possible to get them to be clickable, but in the KGS client they're just dead text.



I don't really know how to accomodate all the comments, especially when people start talking a few moves later about what could have happened before, what happened in similar situations and then what other game or book diagram it reminds them of. It seems more sane to just tell people to read the thread.

It certainly doesn't seem like a great idea to include only the subset of the comments which are easy to include. You only get part of the discussion that way, and it will misrepresent the sometimes very lively debate.

I guess the most logical place to actually put the SGFs would be at the end of each malkovich thread, but this will unleash a wave of necroposts, so maybe blobbing them into their own happy little thread is better? I would just refer to them on the list, it doesn't matter that much where they truly are.

Comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.