Re: Question from Yuan Zhuo's "understanding pro games"
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:35 pm
*sigh* Of course.Kirby wrote:Play 7 below 1.
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Question from Yuan Zhuo's "understanding pro games"
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Re: Question from Yuan Zhuo's "understanding pro games"
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:30 pm
Re: Question from Yuan Zhuo's "understanding pro games"
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:43 pm
Probably better, yeah.Bill Spight wrote:
Re: Question from Yuan Zhuo's "understanding pro games"
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:17 pm
Yes, while I think both sides are playable if white has sente, I agree that this shouldn't be the variation the author had in mind.Kirby wrote:Given the capture of the three stones, this doesn't seem bad to me for black. Would white really play this way?
I guess white has sente.
Re: Question from Yuan Zhuo's "understanding pro games"
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:25 am
The particular push and cut seems rare. I only found one example from GoGoD, this game between Kitani (W) and Takagawa (B), but the whole board position is different and 
is at the 3-4 point. (Also, 
is closer than in the original diagram.) Actually Yuan Zhou has written commentaries on games of these players, and I would not be surprised if he was familiar with this particular game, though I can't see if that's what he had in mind.
Anyway, at least in this game, the crawl seems less bad because of the threat to connect to and remembering that 
above is sente.
is at the 3-4 point. (Also, is closer than in the original diagram.) Actually Yuan Zhou has written commentaries on games of these players, and I would not be surprised if he was familiar with this particular game, though I can't see if that's what he had in mind.Anyway, at least in this game, the crawl seems less bad because of the threat to connect to
and remembering that above is sente.Re: Question from Yuan Zhuo's "understanding pro games"
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:38 pm
Good example, Calvin.
I seem to be stuck with the idea in my mind that "crawling on the second line is bad". Since W played this way in your example, I'm inclined to think that my perception is wrong, but I don't know why. Maybe black's compensation for white's second line territory isn't as good as I'm thinking...
I seem to be stuck with the idea in my mind that "crawling on the second line is bad". Since W played this way in your example, I'm inclined to think that my perception is wrong, but I don't know why. Maybe black's compensation for white's second line territory isn't as good as I'm thinking...