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Re: Trick move by Shin Jinseo 9p?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:05 am
by Bill Spight
macelee wrote:
Bill Spight wrote: But for analysis I would want at least 10K rollouts for each main option (all four in this case)
I was using my laptop which is not powerful enough to obtain 10k within reasonable amount of time. But even if we have 10k, I doubt it would pick up other locations like P4.
I would want 10K rollouts to have confidence in the difference in win rates. I expect that their accuracy depends in large part on the number of rollouts. √(1/10,000) = 1%, so with 10,000 rollouts for each option I would feel pretty confident that if option A has a win rate 3% better than the win rate for option B, then option B is a mistake, and if the difference is 2% it is probably a mistake. The easy way to do this is not to wait until the number of rollouts gets large enough, but to play each option and run them for 10K rollouts. :)
BTW, to use LZ, we seriously need to get a proper GPU. Last weekend, my son asked me to show him the inside of a computer after reading a computing book. I found a 12 year old computer in my garage and it actually still booted without problem. It has an old NVidia card, a card about 15 generations older than the current ones. When I compiled Leela Zero on that machine, to my surprise this very old card still managed to generate rollouts 4 times faster than my brand new laptop (using an Intel i7 CPU).
Back in the 1990s I asked Anders Kierulf why, what with Moore's Law, my new computer was slower than my computer from 10 years before. He just laughed. ;)